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    Unhappy Buddy is Getting More Aggressive..

    Buddy is/was my brothers dog I think he is a Jack Russell x Red heeler but not 100% sure. He is currently living at my parents house where I also live with my 2 kids.

    My brother wasn't the best owner and often hit Buddy to correct his behaviour.
    He moved in with his gf who didnt want Buddy there at all and when my brother was out said the dog bit her son unprovoked. I know the kid and he is a little ****. I've seen him drag their the cats around by their paws/tails & really isnt animal friendly.
    So Buddy was dumped on us. (If he bit the kid the responsible thing is obviously to give him to a home with 2 kids?)

    He is a very loving and affectionate dog but as soon as voices are raised or the kids get really loud and run around he changes.. He becomes very scared/timid and goes and hides.

    Things really took a turn for the worst about 2 months ago. The dogs go on the front verandah when everyone goes out (this is rare someone isn't home)

    I was leaving and had the kids on the verandah & called out to the dogs. Kimba ran out no dramas but Buddy ran from the lounge to under the parents Bed. I went in and called him and put my hand under towards him to tap the ground near him (in hindsight a bad idea) and he lunged out and bit me. He drew blood on my hand. He knew straight away he had done the wrong thing and ran out into the kids play room and hid under the table.

    I went out and as soon as I stepped in the room he growled. I went closer but he started snapping and was being incredibly aggressive so I left him.

    My parents got home and he was a totally different dog.. really happy and as if nothing happened...

    Since then he hasnt been allowed unsupervised near the kids and TBH I wanted him either gone or PTS. If he had bit the kids I would have taken him in without hesitation. My parents just blamed me for the whole thing.

    Tonight Lily was at the table eating and he was underneath just lying down. She swung her legs out (she does on any chair when she can't touch the ground) and nearly kicked him & he started growling. She got up and kinda jumped along towards my dad to give him her bowl. Buddy came out from under and was trying to bite her.
    I yelled out and he froze, stared at me then I yelled "out" and opened the door he cowered under my dad trying to hide. I called his name and he peed everywhere.

    Dad just told me to shut the door and leave him alone. I've taken the kids downstairs with me and am packing our bags for the weekend to get away from it all.
    I'm at my wits end with this dog and my parents. I don't want the dog to attack my kids for them to realise he is a threat. He bit me hard enough to draw blood, imagine what he could have done to a kids face...

    I don't know what to do. Since he has been here we haven't hit him once. I have trained him and we've given him nothing but love and affection but he still has all these issues.

    He also is getting increasingly aggressive to other dogs. My dad only walks him when other dogs are not out..

    Any advice etc? Is there anything I can do to change his (or my) behaviour?

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    Is there any decision you can make on this or is he your parent's dog? Do they see the danger to their grandchildren?

    My feeling is that he certainly can't remain there as a danger to you and the kids. He seems too unpredictable.

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    I would have the dog PTS. Wont make me popular here... however, this animal is not predictable. Kids are not predictable either.
    There is NO WAY I would have him homed with children, however he has also bitten you.
    Sorry, the dog PTS, and your brother fully educated on the correct way to manage a animal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    Is there any decision you can make on this or is he your parent's dog? Do they see the danger to their grandchildren?

    My feeling is that he certainly can't remain there as a danger to you and the kids. He seems too unpredictable.

    That's just it, Its not my dog, not my decision. My mum can see my side but says it upsets my dad when I "carry on". My dad doesn't seem to care.. I don't understand it. He was worried when I brought home a big dog that something might happen, yet when the little dog does it, he shrugs it off.

    I told my brother to come get him or I would find him a new home or get him Pts but he said it wasn't my dog to make that decision.

    At the moment I have to live with him. I just didn't know if there was a way to help him to make it tolerable. I'm trying to move out atm but I can't find a suitable rental with Kimba and I won't leave her behind as she stresses too much without me.

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    Can you talk to your father in some neutral time when nothing is happening? Would he respect your fears if put in a calm rational manner? Otherwise the really only other alternative is to try and move out ASAP. Can the dog be segregated in its own area away from the kids?

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    Oh Sharoo what a horrible situation to be in. I'm sorry but I wouldn't have it. A dog displaying such fear aggression should not be around kids and is a general menace to the community.

    You brother needs to accept some responsibility for it. If he doesn't want anything to do with the dog and leaves it there it no longer belongs to him. If he still claims right of ownership and therefore a say in it's future then he is criminally liable for the dog's actions. So that would already be one count of owning a dog that attacks a person. Can you threaten to report him if he won't deal with the problem? Would that perhaps spur some action?

    to you and the kids - be safe.

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    does the dog have a safe place? A crate he can go into to get away from everything when it gets too much?

    I know he has a lot of problems, but maybe a place he can feel safe in is a good place to start, he can be locked in there (not as punishment) when you go out, or he can hang out in there if he feels scared and wants to hide

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    Sorry all, but in my opinion here is another dog that has to be maybe PTS through the stupidity of an owner. That poor animal probably has no idea whats happening therefore he goes into "attack-mode". The fact that he weed everywhere when he was yelled at shows he is extremly nervous. I do agree he is not safe around children, and I think your brother needs a few lessons in animal responsibilty. I hope this works out for all concerned, including Buddy.

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    Sharoo, so sorry you're in this predicament.

    Your brother has destroyed this dog, but I can see clearly that you already know that. I'm just wondering if you can see that your father particularly is adding to that further destruction? I guess he can't see it, and maybe if you talk to him he might, but I'm doubtful unfortunately.

    IMO dealing with a fear aggressive dog is one thing if all adults in the premises are dealing with it's rehabilitation. It is a whole different story when there are children around!

    From your words I gather the situation will probably not change no matter what discussion occurs between you and your parents, so I would advise you to get out of there asap. The safety of your children is paramount and I for one would not be taking any risk whatsoever with this dog around your children.
    Besides, it's not your dog and I seriously think there's possibly a few more issues besides the fear aggression happening here.

    I don't know the age of your children, Hon, but I would take a fair guess that if the dog attacked one of them they would not be physically or mentally able to kill the animal before major damage was done to them. That is not a scenario any parent can allow themselves or their hcildren to be in.

    In the meantime till you can get the hell out of there, crate the dog as much as possible when your children are around.

    All the best, I feel for you.
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    I think Di and TB make some very valid points.

    Talk to your parents at a time when an incident hasn't happened.

    This is a very frightened dog. He is confused and ready to shut down.

    He needs a quiet home, with no children where he can be ignored until such time as he realises everyone and thing is not a threat to it's safety and training can take place. No amount of training will get thru when it is so vigilant about protecting it's space.

    Obviously your parents house is not such a house. They are always going to have children around and even if you leave are your parents going to be responsible enough to realise that when their grandchildren visit it must be crated. As TB said it's needs a safe haven to call it's own and retreat to. It can never be cornered, are the children old enough to understand that?

    If this other child treats cats the way you have described then I cringe to imagine what this dog was subjected to until it learnt that biting got rid of its antagonist.

    It sounds like nobody is going to be on the same page re any sensible structured rehabilitation and there is only one option to ensure that it never bites again.

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