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    PRA - Progress Retinal Atrophy - a genetic condition to the retina which results in early blindness. Cant be cured (as yet), but possiblity of dog having it depends on whether the parents were carriers of the Gene or not (they can carry but not be affected (B) or be affected (C). However some can be free altogethr (one of those lucky ones i guess)

    Boxerini, to got back to the original reason i submitted a comment - someone asked for a pic of a beaglier and we happened to have some. just sharing some info.

    Nattylou - i know, thanks again for the heads up!

    As for the forum, I believe it is a purebred & CROSSBREED dog forum, so I just asumed we would have an open/general forum - sorry if some may have been offended - maybe needs to be re-labeled.

    Anyway, to all, just enjoy your dogs no matter what `jeans' they wear!

    "Sad but true, we can never control how or why people do what they do"

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    Default For the love of mutts everywhere...

    With further thought - it won't matter what is said.

    This person won't care a hoot for the potential long term health of the pups they churn out. They will take money for them and not have another thought (except for the next litter and pocket money that is!). If your dogs develop major health issues down the track that is the buyer's concern no doubt, as is any sort of long term health issues like congenital vision impairment or brain injury from malformed skulls (all of which and more are possible with your genetics). Heartbreak and massive costs are the end result.

    Sharing a whole lot of love, that is.

    There are people around here who work in animal health care, animal rescue, and animal welfare - including large shelters. They deal with the soggy end of inconsiderate and random dog breeding on a daily basis - unwanted and uncared for pets, and terribly unhealthy animals that often can only be helped one way... How about heading on out and sharing some love with them, and the all too often unfortunate animals that they try and help?

    Go enjoy your mutts Harley10, for what they are and not what you can squeeze out of them for your own benefit. They should be pets and not production mahines.
    There are people here that cannot be converted to your cause, as it's driving forces are not based around long term animal welfare but short term greed.

    ETA - This place is for the celebration of pure and crossbred dogs as pets - not for the promotion of unethical production of more of them.

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    [QUOTE=Nattylou;101777]Oh dear. AF, you were sadly right.





    Nat.......it's not that hard to pick out a freaken BYB in a crowd... even "blonde me" can pick them out....lets hope they leave asap too, cant see many here wanting or supporting a BYB around here anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nattylou View Post
    But you have Cavalier genetics - don't you understand that? Untested Cav genetics by the sound of it. So anything and everything that can be present in Cavs can be present in your dogs. Crossing them doesn't magically eradicate genetic conditions! It really just expands your options for them.
    Yep, you could end up with both Cavalier AND Beagle problems then.
    I know the word "genetics" sounds daunting to some people but it's actually pretty basic once you have an understanding of how genes work.

    I know the argument against what I have just said so I will give an example...

    You have a Cavalier with PRA. You don't know it has PRA because it is only 2 and has not gone blind yet.
    You breed that Cavalier with a Beagle... a breed not prone to PRA.

    The puppies all come out healthy. (this is what people argue with their hybrid vigor BS)

    What you don't realise is that ALL of those puppies are now B rated... meaning they carry the gene for PRA.
    You then breed your "beagalier" to another "beagalier" and shock horror the puppies ALL have PRA.
    You have just bred 6+ puppies that are going to go blind.

    The problem with backyard breeders who deliberately breed designer dogs is only about 10% of them actually bother to test their dogs... or even know that their dogs need testing!

    And yes Harley, this is a sensitive issue for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harley10 View Post
    PRA - Progress Retinal Atrophy - a genetic condition to the retina which results in early blindness. Cant be cured (as yet), but possiblity of dog having it depends on whether the parents were carriers of the Gene or not (they can carry but not be affected (B) or be affected (C). However some can be free altogethr (one of those lucky ones i guess)

    Boxerini, to got back to the original reason i submitted a comment - someone asked for a pic of a beaglier and we happened to have some. just sharing some info.

    Nattylou - i know, thanks again for the heads up!

    As for the forum, I believe it is a purebred & CROSSBREED dog forum, so I just asumed we would have an open/general forum - sorry if some may have been offended - maybe needs to be re-labeled.

    Anyway, to all, just enjoy your dogs no matter what `jeans' they wear!

    "Sad but true, we can never control how or why people do what they do"
    Why do I get the sudden feeling you are just trying to stir up trouble.

    This is a forum for both purebreds and crossbred, but I don't think ANYONE on this site promotes unethical breeding practices be it mixed or pure.

    Nice google work by the way.
    You site isn't a very good one. You missed out the A rating, which is what ALL dogs used in breeding programs should have, it has NOTHING to do with luck

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    On the contrary research has found that there are many `pure bred' puppies coming out of these mills and being sold as `breed' dogs.
    What research? And I'm willing to bet these puppies are not registered with the relevant breed associations or Australian Kennel Club. So they're not pure bred.

    This might be a forum that welcomes owners of cross breeds. But we prefer people to get them from rescue not deliberately mate their pets to get puppies that end up in rescue shelters because they weren't what the new owners expected or wanted.

    And just because your bitch is a "loving mum" doesn't mean she needs to have lots of litters - though I acknowledge you haven't suggested breeding her till she's worn out. A pet doesn't need to have any litters and won't feel the biological clock or like she's missing out - that's all projection by humans and nothing to do with what a dog needs or wants.

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    Smile Beaglier

    Have a female beaglier, I conducted a lot of research before I bought her (she is now 13 months old). That picture is like no beaglier I have ever seen.
    They either look very much like a beagler only small or they look a lot like a cavalier only larger.
    Look on the Amercian webiste they have some great (and normal pictures).
    I find my beaglier to be very loving (she enjoys a cuddle so much) and yet when we go for walks or play she is so full of fun.
    I wanted a dog that would like to walk and play with me but then become a lap dog when we are home inside - I picked the perfect dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gillian4887 View Post
    Have a female beaglier, I conducted a lot of research before I bought her (she is now 13 months old). That picture is like no beaglier I have ever seen.
    They either look very much like a beagler only small or they look a lot like a cavalier only larger.
    Look on the Amercian webiste they have some great (and normal pictures).
    I find my beaglier to be very loving (she enjoys a cuddle so much) and yet when we go for walks or play she is so full of fun.
    I wanted a dog that would like to walk and play with me but then become a lap dog when we are home inside - I picked the perfect dog.
    It is great you have the perfect pooch!

    Welcome to the Forum

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    Gillian, i have a very similar Beaglier...almost like a lap dog and loves to cuddle up. Often i find her under my covers when i'm not watching despite good early training.

    She is beautiful and the perfect dog i was after.

    Excuse my ignorance, but i am 1/4 Polish, 1/2 Italian and 1/4 English and Australian born...i'm not sure i take up any of those traits but have been brought up well.

    Obviuosly dogs are bred for certian reasons, but a nice nurturing home will turn them into a loving dog.

    I only got onto this site as i was looking for another Beaglier to add to our family.
    Last edited by Beaglier; 10-13-2010 at 11:40 PM. Reason: Oh yeah...and she's nuts when let of the lead at the beach...loves a run around! so much character

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    No two crossbreeds are the same.
    There is no such breed as a Beaglier -its made up.
    People that breed crossbreeds are referred to as "Backyard Breeders".
    The term 'Beaglier' is a name to make crossbreeds sound more desirable.
    Crossbreeds are more likely to have genetic health issues than a thoroughly thought out purebred breeding.
    There are hundreds of Beagles X Cavaliers in shelters.
    All facts, no opinion.

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