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    Hmmm....I think that makes Marnie a stumpy-tailed heeler terrier and Pedro a kelphound?? Shame they are desexed or we could have a stumpy-tailed kelpheelhoundterrier.

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    I agree Liza. Nicknaming for fun is ok with me, but when people try to sell them as something they made up, thats what I have a problem with.
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    Harley10

    I hope you understand what it means to support puppy mills and I hope you understand that there is no guarantee with a cross that you or anyone else will get the best of both worlds and not the worst or something in between which may or many not meet the needs.

    If you want a bitza dog of known temperment, check out the adult dogs at petrescue. Pick the friendly dog that likes food treats and you're set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harley10 View Post
    Anyway, here is a few pics for your enjoyment - note they are all beagliers (mum, dad & pups)
    Two apparent beagles and two apparently mixed breed pups does not consitute a breed. And seeing dogs bred for selfish profit is not something that generates enjoyment. Not in ethical people anyway.

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    A Beaglier? There is no way that is not someone trying to pass off a Heinz Special as something it's not - a genuine breed.

    I'm pretty sure the only genuine breed recognized from mixing is the Labradoodle, and that came after a LOT of years and money spent on behalf of the breeders/initiators of the new lines... anything else is just Champagne Taste on Beer Income.

    Mixed breeds are just that - mixed breeds. You won't be the owner of some new whizz-bang niche breed -you will be the owner of a Beagle X Cavalier - with no guarantees that it will look, behave, or live, like it's genetic ancestors.

    And to Harley10, a big "thank you" for illustrating the above point. Four dogs, apparently of the same "Special" breed, and they are all different.

    Yep, sounds like a real breed of nonsense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkest View Post
    A Beaglier? There is no way that is not someone trying to pass off a Heinz Special as something it's not - a genuine breed.

    I'm pretty sure the only genuine breed recognized from mixing is the Labradoodle, and that came after a LOT of years and money spent on behalf of the breeders/initiators of the new lines... anything else is just Champagne Taste on Beer Income.

    Mixed breeds are just that - mixed breeds. You won't be the owner of some new whizz-bang niche breed -you will be the owner of a Beagle X Cavalier - with no guarantees that it will look, behave, or live, like it's genetic ancestors.

    And to Harley10, a big "thank you" for illustrating the above point. Four dogs, apparently of the same "Special" breed, and they are all different.

    Yep, sounds like a real breed of nonsense to me.
    Sorry to pick on you Pinkest, but this is something very close to my heart being a poodle owner...

    The Labradoodle is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT a breed!
    Many puppy farms claim they are and even have their own made up breed standard but they are not a breed.

    The original breeder of Labradoodles did so for his mother to produce an allergy friendly seeing eye dog. After a few generations he realized that it was just impossible.. the dogs just turned out too different with each generation and ended up nothing like he had intended.
    He dropped the project.

    Backyard breeders use this story all the time, they just happen to leave out the "he failed" part of the story.

    Other than that I completely agree with you

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    Huh. Never knew that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    Sorry to pick on you Pinkest, but this is something very close to my heart being a poodle owner...

    The Labradoodle is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT a breed!
    Many puppy farms claim they are and even have their own made up breed standard but they are not a breed.

    The original breeder of Labradoodles did so for his mother to produce an allergy friendly seeing eye dog. After a few generations he realized that it was just impossible.. the dogs just turned out too different with each generation and ended up nothing like he had intended.
    He dropped the project.

    Backyard breeders use this story all the time, they just happen to leave out the "he failed" part of the story.

    Other than that I completely agree with you
    I so agree with you on this one it's not funny, Crested! The whole introduction of the Labradoodle can be partly blamed (IMHO) for the massive increase in the general public's attitude towards Designer Doggies. Perhaps it would have been different had they labelled the sogs something else other than Labra and Doodle. Sigh.
    For the life of me, I still can't understand why he wanted to stuff around and mix the darned poodle with a lab in the first bloody place - his desires and wished outcome just made no sense to me???
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    OT again. Sorry OP. Look, not one person here can really tell you what the Beagle X Cavalier is like, their temp, traits etc. Because ythe bottom line is they ARE a crossbreed dog and it will always end up like a pig in a poke IMO. Hell, even with purebreds you can get exceptions to the general rule of character/temperament and the likes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Floyd View Post
    Harley10...

    What about genetic health tests ????? can you guarantee that your cross bred dogs don't have genetic health issues etc, do you even carry out health tests etc ????
    Aussie Floyd,

    Good question. I guess as with any breeding there is never a guarantee of what you are getting (not even cloning can give us that guarantee yet!?) However, with some of these mixed breeds, there is evidence that where some pure breeds have a tendancy for health issues, by `mixing' with a `stronger' breed the result is a reduced possiblity of that genetic `fault. eg, the nasal/breathing issues of a cavalier are not found in a Beagle as such.

    By our own experience thus far, we can only state that our 2 dogs have been given the all clear by vets so far. However they are still reasonably young (in doggy years) so we can only wait and see.

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