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    Question Tail Docking & Showing

    I don't understand this:

    If tail docking is now illegal (in most eastern states?) how does that work with showing the dogs??? Is it just accepted now that dogs entering the showring will have tails?

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    If its seen as being done for the dogs 'welfare', then a vet can legally do it in WA. Its illegal to be done for cosmetic reasons, then its not allowed.
    Which breeds did you see?
    Education not Legislation

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    If its seen as being done for the dogs 'welfare', then a vet can legally do it in WA. Its illegal to be done for cosmetic reasons, then its not allowed.
    Which breeds did you see?
    No they cant. The law in WA has just been changed.

    Standards for the previously docked breeds are being updated to include information on tails. The hard part was, that when these breeds were no longer docked, there were all sorts of tails cropping up. Go a watch a Rottweiler class at a show and you'll see what I mean! So sometimes a wide variety is currently accepted, until they have had a few years to concentrate on what the tails should be looking like and breeding for that accordingly like they do with other breed features.

    There are still docked examples in the ring. Imported dogs are often docked, depending of course upon where they come from. Some dogs are docked for medical reasons like if they injure their tail etc.

    Some breeds have bobtail genes involved, like Boxers, British Bulldogs and French Bulldogs. Bostons I think as well. But a natural bobtail actually looks different to a docked tail upon close inspection.

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    Some dogs have naturally short tails.

    Aussie Shepherds, and some ACD (Smithfields?) and others.

    In the main I think you would need to produce a vet certificate in advance of entering a dog to show that a tail was docked ie amputated on vets advice because of irrepairable damage eg being in an accident of some sort. Ie you'd have to get permission from the breed club to show. And it's unlikely they'd grant it because it would send the wrong message to people who prefer that look. Ie it would always need explaining plus they wouldn't be able to check the tail met the breed standard if it wasn't there.

    I don't see too many three legged dogs in shows either. Not that I go to many shows.

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    There's lots of short tailed dogs in the showring, whether bobtailed or docked.

    Anything over about four or five years will still be docked as that is how old the laws are. Any that have been done in WA over the last few years will also be done.

    No you don't need to produce documentation to enter a docked dog, but if challenged it would need to be produced, though not instantly - there is a lengthy process to complaints made at dog shows to avoid time wasting on vindictive ones.

    My breed have never been docked so I'm far from an expert. But I would expect that after years and years of not breeding for sound tails, some individuals may turn up within that breed with a predisposition to injury etc. This maybe wouldn't effect their showing ability, if they are medically docked, but should certainly be taken into account for their breeding future. I personally wouldn't show a dog I didn't consider worthy of breeding beause I think that is the whole point. But there are other opinions, and there are other showing classes like junior handlers, neuter sweepstakes etc where the focus is different.

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    Dogs after 30th October 2008 should have a tail unless there is good reason not to or are natural bob, imported or from WA up until just recently, etc.

    My breed also does not require docking, so I'm not up on the laws but I do know that I read in the Dogs NSW journal where the Rotti standard has not long been changed regarding the tail to accommodate the laws & what they see as a good tail I guess.

    Other breeds will need to do the same I guess if they haven't already done so.

    Good posts Natty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    If its seen as being done for the dogs 'welfare', then a vet can legally do it in WA. Its illegal to be done for cosmetic reasons, then its not allowed.
    Which breeds did you see?
    I was aware it can (could?) still be done by a vet in WA, just not entirely sure what each of the eastern states do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nattylou View Post
    No they cant. The law in WA has just been changed.
    Ahhh that's interesting. So when I get my boxer it will definitely have a tail??

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    It is not a matter of it being "accepted" they have a tail...it is a matter of that is the law and will be the norm.
    That's what I meant, it's just the way it is now


    Thanks for your responses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loren View Post
    Ahhh that's interesting. So when I get my boxer it will definitely have a tail??
    Unless you get a bobtailed one!! I love boxer's tails, they are so happy and indicative of their natures.

    We will of course need photos as soon as he/she arrives!

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    I do hope I can get one. Won't be for a while yet

    Still not sure on the exercise requirements but I have a lot more research to do. Surely as long as it gets out every day for an hour plus stimulation at home, that's enough?!

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    Won't even need that much while a baby.

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