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    Quote Originally Posted by Loren View Post
    I do hope I can get one. Won't be for a while yet

    Still not sure on the exercise requirements but I have a lot more research to do. Surely as long as it gets out every day for an hour plus stimulation at home, that's enough?!
    from what my Boxer breeder friend told me you will have to be very careful about where you get the pup from. There are a lot of lines that either have huge temperment issues, huge health issues, or both, but either way you have to be careful. Saying that her dogs are some of the best I have seen!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nattylou View Post
    Won't even need that much while a baby.
    True!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashaari View Post
    from what my Boxer breeder friend told me you will have to be very careful about where you get the pup from. There are a lot of lines that either have huge temperment issues, huge health issues, or both, but either way you have to be careful. Saying that her dogs are some of the best I have seen!!
    Oh dear how scary! How will I know if they have temperament/health issues?? I will of course go with a breeder who does all the necessary tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loren View Post
    Oh dear how scary! How will I know if they have temperament/health issues?? I will of course go with a breeder who does all the necessary tests.
    I do not know a lot but i can ask her which breeder she used if you would like?

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    That would be great

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    Ok Might take her a bit to get back to me though

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    No worries, I've got a couple of years to go

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    All the breeds that were traditionally docked, some as in the OES whose standard had stayed the same for over 150 years, are now shown with tails, and some of the breeds have awful looking tails.

    New sections have been written into the breed standards for most breeds, but could take a while until them end up looking all similar.

    Lots of breeds do carry the "natural bobtail" gene and you can get them DNA tested to find out if your dogs do. 2 that carry the gene can produce pups that are NB's.

    Very nice Boxer litter born in Qld last year with several NB's in the litter.

    Old English Sheepdogs also carry the NB gene, I know this for a fact as I bred a couple of litters back in the 80's that were natural bobtails, only had 1 joint length of tail (same as French Bulldog tails) & their offspring produced some as well.

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    People will get used to it. It's just that everyone is used to seeing certain breeds without tails, and often, have only ever seen them with no tail.

    The first time I saw an Old English Sheepdog with a tail I just thought 'yuck' but now I have seen a lot of them it seems normal.

    There are still quite a few dogs down here that are being shown docked (including several OES) but they are getting a bit long in the tooth now and it won't be long before they are out of the ring.

    I think it's good. There really wasn't any need other than cosmetics.
    How many poodles do you see actually doing what they were bred for - retrieving?
    They were originally docked to remove the 'fragile' end of the tail so the hunter could grab the tail and the hair on their head to pull them out of the water.
    Really unnecessary these days.

    Then you have the people saying that the dogs injure themselves and break their tails... well why the freck aren't dalmatians or great danes docked? Danes are a hunting breed, and dallies tails are like whips.

    Sorry for the rant... I get into this argument quite often on American sites and it really irritates me.

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    I still think OES is a breed that should be docked. Like sheep they can get flyblown, it is not a pretty sight.
    But yes a lot of docking was done cosmeticly and it is just as well that it is not done anymore, even with the bad tail gened now it will just take a bit of adjustment that is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    Then you have the people saying that the dogs injure themselves and break their tails... well why the freck aren't dalmatians or great danes docked? Danes are a hunting breed, and dallies tails are like whips.
    I TOTALLY agree!! Dog's are meant to have tails. It's also how they express how they're feeling.

    If a tail has to be docked for genuine health reasons then I have no problem with it. But not just chopping them all off BEFORE there is a problem

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