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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    I get that part, but why? I mean, 8 weeks is the youngest a pup should be when it leaves. I would rather 10 weeks TBH.
    Each to their own

    I got Kaos at 16 weeks, she had major dog aggression, had i known then what i do now, i would have returned her to the breeder the same day

    After researching and learning and talking to some pretty high up trainers/behaviourists, we know that she didnt get what she needed during the critical period, causing her to be scared of other dogs and lashing out at them when ever she saw them.

    Because of this, I wont ever get a dog that is over 9-10 weeks of age, (i would also never get one under 8 weeks of age because i know how important it is to be with their siblings)

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    i dont think i would, i think it is just taking the problem away from some one!

    but I am a suckers for a hard luck story and if she ended up in rescue i would probably consider it. Aged could also mean the family have out grown her, her owner is going to a home or something else. So each situation would need to be looked at on it's own merits.

    Pepsi was purchased for an elderly lady by her family, her family returned overseas, the dog become neglected not because she didn't care but because she was too much for her. She ended up being seized by the RSPCA! not a good situation for either of them. Now Pepsi lives like a princess the life she deserves after such a tough start but if i didn't consider an older dog she may have never gotten what she deserves!

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    I would not buy them, but would consider taking them on as rescues, where I would then rehome. However, it would depend on the circumstances, for instance, and I'll be hypothetical, if an alleged puppy mill was being shut down, I'd try to help - I have taken on many "difficult" dogs and rehabilitated them where they have gone to loving homes.

    Not something I would encourage others to do!

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    Terrorbull - A good breeder will properly socialize all of the puppies before finding homes for them, they need to socialize them all from a young age because you can never be 100% sure which pup is the pick until they are a little older. Also sometimes aggression is genetic, and has nothing to do with their upbringing.
    Perhaps yours just wasn't from an experienced/reputable breeder?
    (not being mean, just my opinion)

    And to the OP, no I wouldn't buy a dog from a puppy mill, no matter what the circumstances. If somebody doesn't buy her she will eventually get dumped at a shelter... just keep an eye out.

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    While i do like the breeder and do believe she did everything she could for the dogs, it wasnt enough for my girl. Not having a go at the breeder at all, i really like her, but a problem dog is not what i needed

    but no more older puppies for me

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    Nope. It is tempting to try and give them a nice life but fraught with problems. Long story now follows, bear with me...

    I have a dear friend who went looking for a purebred pup. Was recommended a certain registered breeder by an official body. The breeder quoted her $1200 for a pup in the colour she was after. Remembering that this is just personal colour preference for a pet pup, not a world beating show dog!

    She was then offered an adult female for nothing. The story was that this girl had just had a litter of 16 pups, all of which had sold (for $1200 each - yikes!). They said she had whelped 2 litters, and was four years old. She agreed to take her.

    When she got to the kennel it was all very impressive and clean etc. But they had 70 breeding dogs, and their breeding was their sole income. They were given their girl and left with a bad taste in their mouth, dogs in small runs, spinning etc. She said she wasn't happy with the dog but didn't feel she could leave her as she didn't think there was any other option for her.

    This dog was a mess. Physically and mentally. When the vet tried to desex her she nearly died. She was over 8 years old at least and had done nothing but breed, most likely every season - two litters a year - her insides were wrecked. The vet described her uterus like this: "Wet a tissue and put it on the table. Now try and pick it up. That was her uterus."

    She had terrible fear and anxiety, and was a fear biter (and a big powerful breed at that!). She paced ALL the time and the vet tried numerous different medications to try and calm her. She took a piece out of several people - including me. The only decent scar I have from a dog bite she gave me, she came out from under the house, nailed me on the back of the leg and was gone before I even knew what had hit me. Very dangerous indeed. Her owner started having to shut her in the car (she always seemed to feel safe in a car? Maybe from being so confined for most of her life?) just to get visitors from the gate to the house safely.

    Needless to say after a few years of trauma to her and her owner, just through trying to get through each day, and massive constant vet bills she was finally pts.

    And my friend? She hasn't had another dog. I don't know if she ever will. Which is sad, she has always had dogs, and always one of this breed. But her passion for them has been destroyed. It was completely devastating for her.

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    Oh heck Nattylou, that story is very sad. I'm so sorry that happened to your friend.

    I understand the feeling of having a lifelong passion destroyed though. in the short time we had Zed that one darned dog took away an entire lifetime of magnificent memories and knowledge of a particular breed for me. i lost my way for a while following him.

    I've found my way back, thanks to the lovely Logan, but know what it's like. I'm so sorry your friend has been devastated to this degree.
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    Thats SUCH a sad story Netty!!!

    I don't think this is something I would consider doing as I did think there would be considerable behaviour problems with a dog of that sort, or at least a good chance of behaviour problems.

    And I'm just not cut out to deal with them.

    Its just SO sad!!! They will be sold to some un-assuming people who think they are getting a purebred dog at a bargain price and then I wonder what will happen!

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    I would be certainly wanting to have a close look. Yes, there is a possibility of health and temperament problems but that also applies to a dog bred by anyone other than a puppy mill situation, there are no guarantees in life as I have learnt, much to my dismay. I wouldn't avoid the dog just because it is an older dog and to automatically assume that it is fraught with problems is jumping the gun. The obsession that all registered breeders are doing the right thing is ludicrous! There are a fair few that are just as bad as puppy millers and there are quite a few registered puppy millers as it is. Go and have a look, spend some time with the dog and find out for yourself. If you spend over an hour with the dog you will get a pretty good idea as to its temperament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy86 View Post
    Thats SUCH a sad story Netty!!!

    I don't think this is something I would consider doing as I did think there would be considerable behaviour problems with a dog of that sort, or at least a good chance of behaviour problems.

    And I'm just not cut out to deal with them.

    Its just SO sad!!! They will be sold to some un-assuming people who think they are getting a purebred dog at a bargain price and then I wonder what will happen!

    Don't you think you are being too presumptuous in assuming that these dogs are going to have "considerable behaviour problems" ? Don't automatically assume! Crikey, plenty of dogs with so-called "behaviour" problems that were not bred by a puppy miller!

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