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    Quote Originally Posted by peter70 View Post
    Kinda makes you wonder why you would bother microchipping your dog if it means squat should for some reason your dog was to escape or perhaps even have been let out by someone??.
    Personally i think no one here as per usual has the full facts, no one knows anything about the owner or the dog yet assumes everything they say is ficticious. So Myf where did all your facts on this particular dog come from???
    I for one would be ropeable to say the least should my microchipped (purebred) dog be desexed without any notice given to me. I do everything possible to ensure my dog is unable to escape however who knows what could happen should someone wish to LET them out without my knowledge.
    Peter, I suggest you don't move into the Frankston shire then as they won't desex your dog without you knowing, but they won't release him to you should he end up in the pound until you sign the desex application either!

    And you are not alone, there are many many people unhappy about this but the council is standing it's ground.

    You know my view, so I simply wouldn't be in that position as my dogs are and always will be desexed. However, if this was something I didn't want to risk, I simply would not move to that shire!

    You last sentence is especially relevent because that is the point really. Should someone let your dog out and it impregnates another dog......well that is what they are trying to avoid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shar Pei Rescue Victoria View Post
    Peter, I suggest you don't move into the Frankston shire then as they won't desex your dog without you knowing, but they won't release him to you should he end up in the pound until you sign the desex application either!

    And you are not alone, there are many many people unhappy about this but the council is standing it's ground.

    You know my view, so I simply wouldn't be in that position as my dogs are and always will be desexed. However, if this was something I didn't want to risk, I simply would not move to that shire!
    Exactly. In this scenario the dog was not de-sexed without notice given to owner. As owner stated, he was "forced" to de-sex his dog if he wanted him back.

    I believe many residents have a petition going and are fighting this to no end, which is understandable in my own opinion.

    I always have my dogs de-sexed, but will admit I could never live in a shire with laws such as this.
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    Look Sharpei i have nothing but respect for your work with dogs and i understand your view on this, however, as i have said previously i take all precautions possible to ensure my dog comes in no contact with others. I for one certainly dont want to further burden rescue centres with unwanted puppies. That said i will certainly not be desexing my dog when there is the miniscule chance of having someone let him out, nor do i believe that a council has the right to do such thing, especially when my intentions are breed oriontated. He will remain complete until a decision on his breeding potential is decided.

    So there was this article in a local paper that showed shallow facts if any and Myf being a vet nurse is qualified to read into it whatever she likes and everyone high fives her. Sorry i dont buy that.

    Apologies i didnt realise they had been notified or in this case forced.

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    Nah, not everyone high fives and follows like sheep Peter. Ppl DO have their own opinions however, to which they are entitled, just as you are also.

    There are various problems with this law, one being an issue for giant breeds who many owners don't de-sex until a much later age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter70 View Post
    Look Sharpei i have nothing but respect for your work with dogs and i understand your view on this, however, as i have said previously i take all precautions possible to ensure my dog comes in no contact with others. I for one certainly dont want to further burden rescue centres with unwanted puppies. That said i will certainly not be desexing my dog when there is the miniscule chance of having someone let him out, nor do i believe that a council has the right to do such thing, especially when my intentions are breed oriontated. He will remain complete until a decision on his breeding potential is decided.

    So there was this article in a local paper that showed shallow facts if any and Myf being a vet nurse is qualified to read into it whatever she likes and everyone high fives her. Sorry i dont buy that.

    Apologies i didnt realise they had been notified or in this case forced.
    Certainly not trying to pick a fight with you!!!! Your dog, your business, just like my dogs, my business. Just stating the facts about the law Frankston Shire have put in place. And hey, I don't live in this shire, so doesn't effect me in any way.

    Whether you, me or the man in the moon believe in a council enforcing this law, Frankston have indeed enforced it, and there are a lot of people up in arms about it, however, Frankston are sticking to their guns with regard to it. And thems there are the facts! No emotion involved from this end!
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    Sorry DA, get a little frustrated when LITTLE or NO FACTS are used to support these statements.
    To insinuate that this person is contributing to 200,000 dogs being put down without such facts makes a mockery of anyones credibilty regardless of thier position.
    Even the best of the best breeders could have a champion get out, would it be fair to destroy this dogs input to its breed. The breeder may have been voted Australia's "most Responsible Dog owner" but circumstances beyond thier control may have resulted in a so called escape.
    Not everyone whose dog gets out is some out of control breeder of unwanted puppies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter70 View Post
    Sorry DA, get a little frustrated when LITTLE or NO FACTS are used to support these statements.
    To insinuate that this person is contributing to 200,000 dogs being put down without such facts makes a mockery of anyones credibilty regardless of thier position.
    Even the best of the best breeders could have a champion get out, would it be fair to destroy this dogs input to its breed. The breeder may have been voted Australia's "most Responsible Dog owner" but circumstances beyond thier control may have resulted in a so called escape.
    Not everyone whose dog gets out is some out of control breeder of unwanted puppies.
    Actually, I believe this local law states that if the dog is registered with Dogs Victoria as breeding dogs, they are excempt... thereby differentiating between registered and unregistered breeders.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shar Pei Rescue Victoria View Post
    Actually, I believe this local law states that if the dog is registered with Dogs Victoria as breeding dogs, they are excempt... thereby differentiating between registered and unregistered breeders.....

    Thanks for clearing that up

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    Peter, I simply asked questions in the letter. When did I ever state facts on the dog? Its not like I said 'your dog is not registered with ANKC. Your dog is not the best representative.'
    If the owner said yes to all my questions, then its too bad that the dog was desexed.

    Assumed everything was ficticious? What would I assume was a lie? That her dog is a 'thoroughbred'? That he has a microchip? That he wants a pup from him? I believe all these things. I don't think they are a liar. Thats not why I wrote the letter.

    I never said that he is contributing to the 200,000 puppies that are pts in shelters. I asked him if its fair that they are, considering he doesn't think its fair his dog was desexed. Now you are just twisting my words and not reading it in the format its used.

    Little or no facts? I don't think you understand my contention. Why would I need a whole heap of facts? I have one fact. Thats enough.

    I have talked to numerous breeders who don't leave their intact dogs outside unsupervised, just in case something happens. Now THAT is being responsible. There are always ways.
    Quote me word for word, what you have a problem with in my letter, and explain what exactly is wrong with it.


    Anyway, this is the letter I got from the editor on Wednesday.
    Thanks for your comment on the desexing row. I’d like to run your comment on the letters’ page of the paper. Can you forward a contact number? Thankyou, Donna

    So I don't know...

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    I wish mandatory took place at all pounds. I really really do.
    No exception. Even if it is a 'champion'. If your dog is FOUND by a pound, it is WANDERING, therefore able to impregnate/get impregnated by anything.
    I really couldn't give a ****e. Im sick of putting down innocent puppies.
    7 pups and 2 adults yesterday. 4 of the pups from the same litter.
    If your dog is out, I don't care how or why or if it was your fault, I want it desexed.
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