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    I accidently shut the car door on Candy's tail a cpl of weeks ago She was in the car and I had to go into the shop...I thought she was out of the way and I got the very tip of her tail...she yelped for a second then was ok...but YIKES!!!..she wags her tail like mad and I had blood splattered all over the inside of the car, windscreen & seats.....rather that than NO TAIL though...she's fine, no damage done and the vet had a look at it lastnight when she had her vacc..all good..phew!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Hi Loren
    Docked dogs in the ring could be imports or older dogs done before the regulations came in.
    Depends where they are imported from. In most European counties it's illegal as well, yet you see YOUNG docked dogs in rings. For instance, recently I went to a huge international dog show, and most of the breeds that used to be OK do dock are still docked (ears and tails). The worst case are dobermans. You see rotties with tails being shown, but as for dobermans, I haven't seen ONE that had normal ears or tail. Not to mention that they were taking Best in show prices etc... Everyone was allowed to participate. It's all about money and image I guess.

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    Oh yes I forgot about the ears. It's all so horrible

    Glad to hear Candy's tail is ok!!

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    I think it's only been in for about two years. So there is many docked tails still in the show ring. It is nice if people show their dogs past the age of two or so, and don't automatically retire them to breeding.

    Natural bob tails are now much sought after by some breeders and I've seen them in breeds I wouldn't have expected (Boxers, English & French Bulldogs, Boston Terriers etc). A natural bob normally looks slightly different to a docked tail. The ones I've seen sit close to the body, don't stick out like docked ones.

    I LOVE seeing dogs with tails that I'd never seen before - spaniel tails are gorgeous! Rotties and OES also look fantastic with tails, to mention but a few.

    In USA they still dock, and crop ears . Also in some European countries but I couldn't give a list...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nattylou View Post
    I think it's only been in for about two years. So there is many docked tails still in the show ring. It is nice if people show their dogs past the age of two or so, and don't automatically retire them to breeding.

    Natural bob tails are now much sought after by some breeders and I've seen them in breeds I wouldn't have expected (Boxers, English & French Bulldogs, Boston Terriers etc). A natural bob normally looks slightly different to a docked tail. The ones I've seen sit close to the body, don't stick out like docked ones.

    I LOVE seeing dogs with tails that I'd never seen before - spaniel tails are gorgeous! Rotties and OES also look fantastic with tails, to mention but a few.

    In USA they still dock, and crop ears . Also in some European countries but I couldn't give a list...
    Natural bobtail is extremely rare, so I wouldn't fall for that easily.
    There are certain breeds that are quite often born with no tail, and it's recognised/written by their standard.
    I can somehow cope with tail docking, but ears are something that sends needles down my spine. Maybe because tails docking is performed at very early age, pups are not developed, and it might hurt less (I hope). But ears are done when dog's about 3 months old, it's deprived of puppyhood, because it can't play with other dogs in order it's ears don't get damaged (further). It's just horrible, and to me, it doesn't look nice at all. I hate when dog has cropped ears, especially certain breeds who have them cropped all the way, like Napoletan mastiff, or dogo argentino.
    Some states in US don't crop, many do. Most western European countries don't dock (although I suspect it's really the case).
    Last edited by Fedra; 02-17-2009 at 04:35 PM.

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    Hey all,

    Australian Shepherds also have a natural bob tail (if you could call it that as they are so fluffy you can hardly see it).

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    So they do Mr Squish!
    I had forgotten about them
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    Heh! Well, I should know, considering I'm looking to own one. Hopefully with a tail though, I'm not much of a fan of the bob tail.

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    I have no issue with docking.
    I prefer rotts and boxers and dobes and jacks without a long tail. that is me though, and as long as it is done when the pups are 2 or 3 days old, i have no issue with it
    There are dogs that are shown that are a lot younger than how long the ban has been in place.
    It used to be, from what i have been told, illegal in eastern australia but legal in western australia. I have been told that breeders would send their litters over r whelp their bitches over there so it could be done.
    It is now illegal all over australia.

    You will also have to remember that many breeds that have not had long tails, like the rotts and dobes will have to change their standards and they will also have a number of tail issues with tail carriage, length etc as they have never had them before.
    So dogs that have produced gorgeous dogs may throw tail faults - so that will have to be taken into consideration aswell.
    As for natural bob tail rotties, well there may be BUT is the quality of the dog the same? If people are breeding for the natural bob tail without thought to the rest of the animals then sub standard unhealthy dogs could start coming about, and people may use them to carry on that gene.

    Is that what we want? An unhealthy animal for the sake of a bob tail?
    Why not keep it legal? If it is done early enough and properly there is little to no pain associated with it. The people i have spoken to have said if it is done between day 2 and that there is little pain associated as the nerves have not fully formed and connected as yet, they do the docking and then put the pup back on mum and it is all forgottent

    Do you think that removing dew claws is wrong too?
    Last edited by Triple D; 02-22-2009 at 11:51 PM. Reason: to add further info
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    What a well written post TripleD!!

    And dew claws...I dont do them personaly but alot do and I have no issues with it
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