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    Building a chicken coop/pen sounds like the easiest way around the problem.

    Not a really cheap exercise depending on the size of the yard/amount of chickens though.
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    Training can help but once a dog has chased down an animal and gotten great enjoyment from it you might say it's then considered part of it's repertoire.

    You can do lots of training but should the chooks get highly excited over something and all squark at once for example then it may become too much for the dog.

    Having said that Gemma killed a chicken at about 9mths old, she didn't eat it, poor thing was in her trampoline bed all in tact, we think she ran it to death. She'd had it for 3 days down the side of the shed (the reason I did nothing was the neighbours chook yard was right on the other side of the fence and I couldn't tell the difference between in our yard and not). But the neighbour told me it went missing 3 days earlier during a storm bla bla bla).

    She has since walked right past our current neighbours chooks many times, has been to a few Pointer & Setter Field days and given up her frozen pigeon no problem.

    So.....

    Good luck, it's not an uncommon problem. The desire to chase down running moving prey is common, it's often how small dogs tend to get attacked. They run because they are scared of the bigger dog and in clicks the prey drive. I'm not saying all dogs do it but...

    One of my uncles best workers has killed a lamb or two, other farmers don't know why he keeps her, but as he says control the kill side of things and she's the quickest and most determined worker he has. Herding to some degree stops just short of the kill and of course careful breeding etc etc.

    I wish you all the best, if the dog also chases the goat, then yes I'd say the drive is high.
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    First let me say that I am not a farmer (well, the last 5 weeks I have been aspiring but....)

    However, in my position in rescue, when I receive calls asking me to take a dog that has killed another creature, I have to say no, for legal reasons. I can not rehome an animal that has killed another or attacked a human being.

    I agree with the others on this forum that it will be a HUGE job to retrain and I really think that your only option is to get the advise of someone off the land - with success in these matters and follow what they say to the T.

    I don't approve of dogs kept constantly on a chain as I often pick up the pieces of these shattered dogs whose quality of life has been frankly questionable.

    Perhaps your sister should look at rehoming into the city where there are less prey to consider.

    I don't want to sound heartless, but I do admit that I have put the occassional dog to sleep for a prey drive that is completely out of control. I have also rehomed dogs with high prey drives who have lived wonderful lives once the prey card has been removed from their lives. There is currently one on the website right now who is totally unsuitable to live with cats, and in her case she will be rehomed to a home that is cat and rabbit free as everything else about this little darling is exceptional.

    If a dog kills its own kind there is something very wrong with the dog. But if a dog is hunting prey, that can be a very natural thing and we as humans must consider the drive in these dogs and accomodate them accordingly.

    Its a hard call and only you and your sister really know how dedicated she will be to retraining this dog or if the dog would honestly have a better quality of life living away from these temptations.

    Best of luck, I truly mean this!

    ETA the last thing you and your sister would want is a pts order from the local council if this dog did get out and killed someone elses animals. There is a lovely Dob currently on death row that I know of for this very reason, so I assure you, this does happen.
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    Um, there is a very, very, very old fashioned way of dealing with it. Ever heard of it?

    Chooks/dogs once killed/attacked = not good scenario, I'm sorry to say.

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    My Grandad had a dog a long, long time ago that used to kill chickens. My mum told me how he stopped that dog from ever doing it again but while it was successful, it is rather gross. I don't really think it is appropriate for a forum but if your sister has a strong stomach it might be good as a last resort... pm me if you would like to know.

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    Yep Crystal, my sentiments exactly. It IS gross, and not something for here. PM is best idea.

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    I think I might be thinking of something similar - which trainer Barbara Woodhouse used many many years ago. Like she said about it, it's not nice, but if the dog is to be destroyed then it can be worth a shot - nothing to lose I suppose...

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    This sounds very interesting... Im curious now Good luck with the situation, OP.

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    Dead chicken tied around it's neck till it rots, I think it is fine for the forum, sorry, but I am on the land. Eggs full of hot english mustard with dogs who snitch eggs. A long rag on the washing line soaked in tabasco sauce for dogs who rip down washing, ummmmmmm.
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    I've successfully hung full water balloons with a little added lemon juice inside sheets on the line for washing stealers - it's the surprise of the water bursting into their face that I think does the trick.

    Painstaking to set up but saves so much frustration if it works!!

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