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    Izzy is our 3 year old JR, she came to us as an 11 month old pup facing euthanasia from her former owners because they raised her wrong and allowed her to pick up very bad habits such as biting and nipping people and aggression to other animals etc. We took her in and have worked hard for the last 2 1/2 years sorting her problems out, our vet has been a godsend taking our calls all the time and helping us out with everything.

    Now although her aggression towards people is almost gone, her aggression towards cats and dogs has intensified severly in the last 3-4 months and we seem to be chasing our tails. 4 days ago Izzy attacked my very ill 10 year old cat and he lost the use of his back legs, the vet and I are working hard to get him walking again but don't hold out much hope. Our vet has said that we have done a great job with her but that her issues are still there so our options were put her to sleep or see an animal behaviourist. I chose the animal behaviourist and now was just wanting to know if anyone on here ever been to a behaviourist for these type of issues and if yes did it help???

    Sorry about the long thread I could have gone on forever.

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    Good on you for helping the girl.

    Think 'Its Me Or The Dog.'
    Most behaviourists will come and observe the 'problem' and then show and explain ways to contain or modify, in your case, her aggression.
    Unfortunately, they are usually the last option, so they will/should have the final say in what happens with the dog.

    What type of aggression is it? Fear, dominance, possesive etc.
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    I just found a website defining each 'form' of aggression.
    Its pretty good.
    Types of Aggressive Dog Behavior
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    Myf has asked a good question: Fear aggression, territorial aggression and dominance aggression are all vastly different, but often the average pet owner can't tell the difference.

    I have a question, please...

    Are you the member who has a fair amount of animals but are house-bound and don't get to walk them and take them out? Apologies if I've got the wrong person.
    However, if I'm right, then that could also explain a hell of a lot.

    This JRT is socialised with the other naimals in your home right? What about animals outside your dwelling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Myf has asked a good question: Fear aggression, territorial aggression and dominance aggression are all vastly different, but often the average pet owner can't tell the difference.

    I have a question, please...

    Are you the member who has a fair amount of animals but are house-bound and don't get to walk them and take them out? Apologies if I've got the wrong person.
    However, if I'm right, then that could also explain a hell of a lot.

    This JRT is socialised with the other naimals in your home right? What about animals outside your dwelling?
    You are not mistaken I am that member, when you say it like that it makes me sound like a terrible owner but I believe people can believe what they want.
    Our routine has changed dramatically in the last 6 weeks and I think alot of people would be happy to know that the pack is now walked everyday and they're behaviour has improved I must admit, but Izzy has not changed at all. Izzy is socialised with the other animals in our home and we have tried numerous times to socialise her with animals outside our home and have only had problems she was recently kicked out of her obedience class due to her behaviour towards the other dogs and handlers. We will now wait to see what the behaviourist has to say about her. As to the type of aggression she has the vet has said it is a mix of all of them she shows dominance, fear and territorial aggression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogmad View Post
    You are not mistaken I am that member, when you say it like that it makes me sound like a terrible owner but I believe people can believe what they want.
    Our routine has changed dramatically in the last 6 weeks and I think alot of people would be happy to know that the pack is now walked everyday and they're behaviour has improved I must admit, but Izzy has not changed at all. Izzy is socialised with the other animals in our home and we have tried numerous times to socialise her with animals outside our home and have only had problems she was recently kicked out of her obedience class due to her behaviour towards the other dogs and handlers. We will now wait to see what the behaviourist has to say about her. As to the type of aggression she has the vet has said it is a mix of all of them she shows dominance, fear and territorial aggression.

    No, not meant like that at all. Just ascertaining I had the right person, because I do believe that as a general rule the daily outside socialisation can help combat a lot of otherwise pent up problems.

    But obviously that's not working with Izzy! Jeez, if the vet believes she is showing forms of all those types of aggression, then yeah, I hope a qualified behaviouralist can help to form a program that will fix her.

    Keep us informed, please. I wish you all the best, as it's an issue that I know very well is so darned hard to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    No, not meant like that at all. Just ascertaining I had the right person, because I do believe that as a general rule the daily outside socialisation can help combat a lot of otherwise pent up problems.

    But obviously that's not working with Izzy! Jeez, if the vet believes she is showing forms of all those types of aggression, then yeah, I hope a qualified behaviouralist can help to form a program that will fix her.

    Keep us informed, please. I wish you all the best, as it's an issue that I know very well is so darned hard to deal with.
    Sorry if I offened you. Have just returned from the doctors as Izzy decided I would taste nice and took a bite at my hand. This is the first time she has ever actually bitten me badly enough to draw blood. I just don't know what to do with her. We go to the behaviourist soon so I hope they can help I really don't want to face putting her to sleep but if they can't help her I don't think there will be much choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    Oooohhh...not good

    I know you say it is the first time she has drawn blood, but how often does she actually bite you and/or other humans?
    When we got her at 11 months she was nipping and we stopped it but the animal aggression has been getting worse, now today she just turned on me and grabbed my hand, she latch on and didn't let go. Other than today the last time she would have nipped/bitten someone was almost 2 years ago

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    Oh heck, not good at all. Animal aggression is one thing, aggression shown towards humans (particularly their owners) is another ball game altogether.

    I'm so sorry. When exactly are you seeing the behaviouralist? This is rather urgent IMO.

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    Can I ask why she bit you?? Any reason? Over food or a toy?

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