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    I'm not going to spill the beans quite yet. Suffice it to say that they use Cappy's German lines which are hard to find in Aus. I dunno who the sire is yet - I am hoping it's Mika or last years Seiger cause if it is one of a number of others I am NOT interested

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    Have you told her that?

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    I have asked who the male dog was

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    NOT happy - a bitch that I liked and wanted a pup from has gone to a dog I like and the breeder has not bothered to get back to me - and I was adamant I was interested - grrr

    different breeder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Floyd View Post
    I understand what your saying Dorte & i should have made myself clearer, i am referring to the current day standards of 16"/38" & not the old standards.
    fair enough

    I can tell you though...a fair bit of the SBT's I have seen at the shows are borderline too small according to the Standard...they have very short muzzles (breathing problems) with over pronounced stop...eyes are not round and medium sized anymore, they look "asian" (if you get my drift). Their bodies are WAY overdone as in muscle tone and it look ridiculous.

    Sumo is too big (probably coming from his Sire's blue bloodlines), but you know what...he is not WAY big. We looked at the boys who would win and he is very close to their size.

    If you see a well bred AmStaff's at a show...you are in no doubt what is an SBT and what is an AmStaff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post
    I just wanted to say thanks to AF. Because I think she got where I was coming from. Standard, quality and health can be broken down into parts and for a lot of people quality and health would be sufficient.

    AF, like me, I think wants the whole package she wants that SBT look + everything else.

    I hope that is what you meant?

    I know I am not always the best at putting across in type what I'm trying to say so I hope I didn't confuse anyone or rub anyone the wrong way.

    I am glad I'm not a SBT or GSD fanatic because your hunt for the perfect specimen has been made difficult by disreputable people.

    MAC.. thank you for understanding me & my words

    I too am like you "not always the best at typing what i want to say".

    I am not against any dog regardless of breed or cross breed & whether it is with in "standards" or not.

    If & when i buy a pure bred SBT puppy, i will endeavor to find one from lines that are within the SBT standard..

    My 1st adopted SBT, RIP "Zep" was a out of SBT standard, he was 18" at the withers & weighed 20- 21kgs & i still love him to bits regardless of he's breeding lines etc.

    Floyd has a fault, he has a kink in the end of he's tail. I don't have a clue how it was caused eg; birth defect or injury etc as Floyd was adopted by me at age 7 from SR.

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    Maybe they'll get back to you yet Occy?

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    This is from a little way back but I noticed that somepeople thought that if you advitise on tradingpost or gumtree etc. you are not a good breeder. I am not trying to start anything but I take exception to that. I use gumtree etc and find them really helpful for advitising. Just because I advitise that way does not mean I sell to whoever comes along and quite frankly when you have a $800 dog next to a bunch of $200 dogs you only get the genuine people anyway, well most of the time
    I am just saying that just cause I use gumtree that doesnt make me less picky about who takes my babies. In fact that is how I cultivated my waiting list I have now
    And Im with MAC, every pup that leaves my place is welcome back ANYTIME. It discusts me that there are so many breeders out there who dont care if their pups are dumped

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    fair enough

    I can tell you though...a fair bit of the SBT's I have seen at the shows are borderline too small according to the Standard...they have very short muzzles (breathing problems) with over pronounced stop...eyes are not round and medium sized anymore, they look "asian" (if you get my drift). Their bodies are WAY overdone as in muscle tone and it look ridiculous.

    Sumo is too big (probably coming from his Sire's blue bloodlines), but you know what...he is not WAY big. We looked at the boys who would win and he is very close to their size.

    If you see a well bred AmStaff's at a show...you are in no doubt what is an SBT and what is an AmStaff.

    Dorte..

    Yes i too have seen SBT's that look so wrong on so many levels & i don't support such breeding practices of having any more or any less than 50% BULL & 50% TERRIER, the perfect mix IMO.

    Yes us SBT fanatics maybe able to tell the difference in well bred lines, but the average person don't though & that is what concerns me in regards to identification when it comes to dog attacks etc.

    How many times have you heard that an SBT has attacked etc, yet in fact it wasn't an SBT but it was another breed that closely resembles the SBT.

    See what i mean about breeding over size SBT's they are copping blame for another breed attacks etc & that freaken annoys the hell out of me.

    TBH i don't think it's fair on the "over size" SBT to have to suffer or be accused of something that it didn't do etc just because it is very similar in size to another breed.

    If only we lived in a perfect world & my beloved breed was only bred within the Standard, just then maybe there wouldn't be so much confusion to what breed is what.





    OMG i hope others can understand what i am trying to say.

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    I called - she has no idea who I am.

    NOT happy!!

    Anyway - it was a small litter and they're all gone already though they were born this week.
    Last edited by Occy; 03-22-2010 at 09:20 AM.

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