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    After we finish Puppy Preschool in two weeks time...would this course be suitable for Poppy and I?

    Or would she still be too young? It starts on Arpil the 18th so she would be 19 weeks exactly.

    Agility Dog Club Of Queensland - Course Information

    What do you think?

    Thanks!

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    Yes providing you can refuse the halti/gentle leader and just use a flat collar.

    Poppy may sustain quite severe neck injuries due to being so small if you used a gentle leader with her, not to mention the dogs hate them. (Most not all)

    JMO

    I think you'd be better off with a membership with these guys: Ipswich Dog Obedience Club, Mt Crosby Rd, Tivoli QLD 4305 (07) 3812 9142‎

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela's Gone Batty View Post
    not to mention the dogs hate them. (Most not all)
    Agree with this statement. There are a pair of dogs at my dog training club, who have haltis and they are constantly scratching at the faces. One of them actually had to go to the vet for the effects it had on his face, e.g bleeding from scratching, I think he had an injury to his eye aswell.

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    Oops, sorry Amy, forgot to add that you should always head down to any school that you're looking at going to and make sure that you like what you see. Make sure that the trainers are nice and friendly, the owners seem happy and seem to be enjoying themselves and the dogs are happy too. That's the best way to see if a club is decent. Find out what nights and what times they train and go from there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela's Gone Batty View Post
    Yes providing you can refuse the halti/gentle leader and just use a flat collar.

    Poppy may sustain quite severe neck injuries due to being so small if you used a gentle leader with her, not to mention the dogs hate them. (Most not all)

    JMO

    I think you'd be better off with a membership with these guys: Ipswich Dog Obedience Club, Mt Crosby Rd, Tivoli QLD 4305 (07) 3812 9142‎
    Eeek! That sounds scary! What is a halti/gentle leader??? It doesn't sound very gentle!

    I read on DOL that the class sizes at Ippy Dog Obedience Club are realllly big. Have you been there? Whats your experience been like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy86 View Post
    Eeek! That sounds scary! What is a halti/gentle leader??? It doesn't sound very gentle!

    A halti is a head collar for dogs. Ill put a picture up, hopefully that will show you what they are......

    Basically the lead attaches to the ring under the jaw, which when pulled on closes the mouth. This can 'help' stop agression and barking. I say 'help' because IMO it distracts the dog, irritates it, and depending on the dog irritates the skin around the eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxerini View Post
    A halti is a head collar for dogs. Ill put a picture up, hopefully that will show you what they are......

    Basically the lead attaches to the ring under the jaw, which when pulled on closes the mouth. This can 'help' stop agression and barking. I say 'help' because IMO it distracts the dog, irritates it, and depending on the dog irritates the skin around the eyes.
    Poppy would HATE that! And I think its terrible!!! Am looking at the other place AGB reccomended...

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy86 View Post
    Eeek! That sounds scary! What is a halti/gentle leader??? It doesn't sound very gentle!

    I read on DOL that the class sizes at Ippy Dog Obedience Club are realllly big. Have you been there? Whats your experience been like?
    I've watched and from what I saw yes the classes were of a decent size (they are the only obed club nearby AFAIK) but the instructors seemed good and the owners looked happy as did the dog.

    I have been meaning to get down there again to have another look and see at what whether it would be appropriate for distraction training for Batty BUT I haven't gotten down there recently! Last time I was down there was around July last year so things may have changed.

    I don't like the idea of a club that mandates what equipment you use. Haltis and GL's only make for a very bad class. IMO they are worse than check chains, but that's just my opinion - I don't expect others to share it.

    I can guarantee that one will never go anywhere near Batty EVER.

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    A halti will not be going near Bella either. In Townsville I saw one shih-tzu with one. I stopped them to ask what it was, and they took it off their dog to show me, and doggie had red skin, no hair rubbed down because of where it was. It was then I vowed never to use one on Bella.

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    Frosty hates the noseband thingy. I got a gentle leader for her, and yes, correctly fitted it works (makes her heel nicely) but she clearly hates it. And you can't let her play with other dogs with it on in case they grab it and cause her pain across the nose.

    That's why i got the sensible harness from softouchconcepts.com

    Some people argue that the halti is better than a slip collar. I'd say it's much of a muchness. I train frosty for obedience in a slip collar and it's almost always loose though it wasn't when we started. And Frosty could wriggle out of the flat collar if I'm not paying attention. She doesn't know this though. We use the flat collar for agility. I hate to think what would happen if a halti got caught on agility equipment.

    And I think $85 for a dog club obedience course is too much. Ours is $55 for the whole season (Feb through November) up to two classes a week, as many as you can attend. Most people I've talked to about 8 week courses are not happy with what they get. Ie the dog is usually still quite naughty and they (the handlers) have not learned the skills to deal with it.

    Also our dog club will not allow dogs under 12 months (and without the grade 5 basic obedience pass ie 5 months of training minimum), to do agility training. The age restriction is to prevent puppies that still have (softer) growing bones from doing themselves a damage going over jumps and obstacles.

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