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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedra View Post
    That's not a dew claw. Dew claws are on hind legs and usualy cause lots of problems because they're useles and often dangling, get stuck, get injured. I had a dog with dew claws and had them removed for that reason. A very simple surgery done only with local anaesthetic. However, some breed standards require that dogs have dew claws, Beaucerone (french heardind dog) for instance has double dew claws on each hind leg!

    Beauceron (pronanunced Boseron):



    and it's dew claws required by breed standard: (looks bloody ugly if you ask me, although the breed is gorgeous)

    So what are the ones on the front then, if you're saying they're not dew claws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashaari View Post
    ARE YOU FOR REAL?? OMG those people give the rest of us a bad name
    I cant believe that! I have been thinking abpout tattooing my tibbies eyelid because Im worried about the big C, I kept him cause I thought it was cute but since Kia, Im worried. There is no way I would put any one of my dogs through that kind of thing for cosmetic reasons!!! The inside of their mouths!!
    Yep!!!

    I have had tattoos done and it hurts..........can't quite imagine how much it would hurt having my tongue and gum tattooed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    Yep!!!

    I have had tattoos done and it hurts..........can't quite imagine how much it would hurt having my tongue and gum tattooed....
    *shakes head* I am so discusted. I do not believe that you should change your dog to do better at the show, I can understand that you put heaps of money into a dog and then they have something that stops then from winning, I had a boy who was brilliant, the one in my av, and the breeder didnt take enough notice of his teeth so he had a double row, I thought about getting his mouth fixed but what was the point. But I digress, I can understand the want to fix it, but I cant support accually doing it. The entire reason for conformation showing is to promote the best example of the breed, you pick a dog or bitch that ballances out your dogs faults in the hope that the next generation is an improvement. To "fix" a dog cosmenticly and then breed with it knowing the next gen WILL HAVE the same faults is rediculious!! Winning and the money a tittle brings in is all these people care about it is WRONG!

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    That's new to me Cleasanta, and another thing to add to my list of bad things people do
    When I got Prada, my female poodle, spayed I specifically asked for her not to have her ear tattooed, I also have tattoos so I know how much they hurt! The vets went ahead and tattooed her anyway poor girl

    And yep Ashaari, there was/is really no reason for a poodle to be docked. Back when they were actually a retrieving breed the pom on the tail was used for the hunter the tie a ribbon to so they could see and identify their dog in the water.
    It doesn't make sense to make the tail shorter for that reason, it's done purely for cosmetics.

    You hit a very good point too, what really crackles my bacon is when people get a problem fixed and then BREED from the dog.
    Having surgery or tattoos doesn't magically cancel that problem out of your dogs genetics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    You hit a very good point too, what really crackles my bacon is when people get a problem fixed and then BREED from the dog.
    Having surgery or tattoos doesn't magically cancel that problem out of your dogs genetics!
    I hate it! I do not believe a dog should be tittled if it is not up to standards. You will NEVER find a perfect dog, but I believe if you have to cosmeticly "fix" big issues then you shouldnt tittle that dog, if you are going to breed with it you only breed it to something that will correct those issues. A dog should not be tittled if it has to be "fixed". A dog should not be bred with if it can not give birth on its own. A dog with huge health issues should not be bred with AT ALL! That is the way breeds are ruined!

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    I have heard of Rotties having ear set ops to correct them....and these dogs are being used for breeding. An operation will not fix the genetics...bloody idiots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    I have heard of Rotties having ear set ops to correct them....and these dogs are being used for breeding. An operation will not fix the genetics...bloody idiots!
    sounds like money hungry breeders

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    It happened in every animal show ring..

    I have not problem with tail docking.. but people gotta remeber that some breeds of dogs are born with a short tail eg queenlander stumby tail blue heeler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peta23 View Post
    It happened in every animal show ring..

    I have not problem with tail docking.. but people gotta remeber that some breeds of dogs are born with a short tail eg queenlander stumby tail blue heeler
    You mean the Australian Stumpy Tail Cattle Dog

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    I don't really see much different between docking and breeding for unnatural qualities (such as some things seen in designer breeds).

    Is there any benefit for dogs having cropped ears? I can't think of anything. Is there any benefit for dogs having cropped tails? Some, imo, depending on circumstances.

    To those who say that that it is a barbaric practice, would you circumsize your son? Or better yet, would you have your dog's tail docked if the vet recommended you doing so if it sustains an injury? I believe docking has a place here. For purely cosmetic reasons, however, I am glad it is banned.

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