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    I think you have come a long way Amy

    If I were you...I wouldn't get another dog until you are comfortable with what you are doing with Poppy

    Having one pup is hard...having 2 is REALLY hard....take this advice from one who had an 8 week old Staffy girl and a 5 month old Staffy boy

    I would start researching now to be honest. Some breeders have waiting lists and they can be a couple of years from the good ones

    Go to some shows...talk to the show people...read websites...do your homework

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    Please take this the way it is intended..with a hug and a smile. If you freak so much over everything that happens with one dog, how will you be with 2?

    Now, listen to mummy Di.
    Like with a first child we do want to do things just right and we do go overboard. We also tend by the second one to be a tad more relaxed. I honestly would wait (I know you said some time in the future) until you are much more relaxed about Batty.

    Insert another hug.
    Thanks Mummy Di! And I agree whole heartedly! I want to be completely content in my knowledge and in our lives with Poppy (Batty is AGB's pup) before I add another! I think I would get a stomach ulcer if I got another puppy now! I'm juuuuust starting to relax with Poppy!

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    I should change my name to di has gone batty, I meant poppy not Batty....sighhhhhhhhhhhhhh. All Angela"s fault as I think I answered a post of hers (or read one..am getting senile) before I posted yours.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    I should change my name to di has gone batty, I meant poppy not Batty....sighhhhhhhhhhhhhh. All Angela"s fault as I think I answered a post of hers (or read one..am getting senile) before I posted yours.
    I'm an though!

    Love your work Di!

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    Cav's require lots of health tests.

    My suggestion is to join the Cav Club in your state and start receiving their newsletter and speciality show notices.

    If they are like my breeds clubs they may hold a picnic day and you get to meet a lot of the pet owners.

    Ask how they've found their puppies and adults health. Find whatever avenue it takes to break into their circle and especially that of their pet owners.

    Pet owners need to understand that a lot of the testing is carried out on adult dogs and therefore it doesn't get carried out of the ones that go to pet homes. We may never come across any problems in the dogs we keep but one sold to a pet home may have health problems. Am I making sense??

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    Hi Amy86

    What everybody else said - I think is good.

    I would like to add - in the next few months as you do classes and take Poppy for walks - you will see what kind of dogs she likes, and if she has a preference for males or females and what breed/size she likes to play with.

    Frosty likes engergetic run a lot dogs, and has a special fondness for farm dog varieties but also gets along well with labs, golden retrievers and german short haired pointers. She also loves beagles.

    The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel type dogs I've seen at our parks prefer quieter dogs that are a little less energetic. There's one that likes the small schnauzers - the same size and other cav's but is less thrilled with the big dogs (squash factor) or maltese x or terrier x SWF types (too snappy) or poodle x (too energetic).

    I also know heaps of people who have two desexed bitches, and as long as one is definitely older (like a year or so) that the other one which arrives as a puppy, there is no problem. Our Aussie Terrier bitch was boss of the Kelpie x Heeler bitch - forever. Same with my brother's Heinz dog and the staffy that arrived later. Size does not seem to be a factor, it's more an age / puppy thing.

    And if you get two bitches you won't need to deal with leg cocking puppies. Though with some of the smaller breeds - sometimes they never learn to cock legs - especially if it's the boy puppy learning from the older bitch.

    Also when you go to choose your new puppy, see if you can take Poppy with you and let her help choose. It's no good bringing home a puppy she can't stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    Please take this the way it is intended..with a hug and a smile. If you freak so much over everything that happens with one dog, how will you be with 2?

    Now, listen to mummy Di.
    Like with a first child we do want to do things just right and we do go overboard. We also tend by the second one to be a tad more relaxed. I honestly would wait (I know you said some time in the future) until you are much more relaxed about Batty.

    Insert another hug.
    Di, that was cute.

    Amy, Didnt you just get a dog? I would wait until Poppy was a little older first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post
    Cav's require lots of health tests.

    My suggestion is to join the Cav Club in your state and start receiving their newsletter and speciality show notices.

    If they are like my breeds clubs they may hold a picnic day and you get to meet a lot of the pet owners.

    Ask how they've found their puppies and adults health. Find whatever avenue it takes to break into their circle and especially that of their pet owners.

    Pet owners need to understand that a lot of the testing is carried out on adult dogs and therefore it doesn't get carried out of the ones that go to pet homes. We may never come across any problems in the dogs we keep but one sold to a pet home may have health problems. Am I making sense??
    I think I understand what you are saying. You are saying that the Mum and Dad dogs get the testing but NOT the puppies? So it is most likely that if Mum and Dad are clear so will the pups but its not always the case...is that what you mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Hi Amy86

    What everybody else said - I think is good.

    I would like to add - in the next few months as you do classes and take Poppy for walks - you will see what kind of dogs she likes, and if she has a preference for males or females and what breed/size she likes to play with.

    Frosty likes engergetic run a lot dogs, and has a special fondness for farm dog varieties but also gets along well with labs, golden retrievers and german short haired pointers. She also loves beagles.

    The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel type dogs I've seen at our parks prefer quieter dogs that are a little less energetic. There's one that likes the small schnauzers - the same size and other cav's but is less thrilled with the big dogs (squash factor) or maltese x or terrier x SWF types (too snappy) or poodle x (too energetic).

    I also know heaps of people who have two desexed bitches, and as long as one is definitely older (like a year or so) that the other one which arrives as a puppy, there is no problem. Our Aussie Terrier bitch was boss of the Kelpie x Heeler bitch - forever. Same with my brother's Heinz dog and the staffy that arrived later. Size does not seem to be a factor, it's more an age / puppy thing.

    And if you get two bitches you won't need to deal with leg cocking puppies. Though with some of the smaller breeds - sometimes they never learn to cock legs - especially if it's the boy puppy learning from the older bitch.

    Also when you go to choose your new puppy, see if you can take Poppy with you and let her help choose. It's no good bringing home a puppy she can't stand.
    Thanks Hy! So far she has liked all the dogs she has met. And that has been Labs, Husky, Pug and AGB's Batty! I appreciate all the advice! Its great!

    Quote Originally Posted by Boxerini View Post
    Di, that was cute.

    Amy, Didnt you just get a dog? I would wait until Poppy was a little older first.
    Umm...yes, we got Poppy 6 weeks ago (see billion related threads!)

    Did you even READ my OP though? Your comment doesn't really contribute ANYTHING to what I am already thinking/planning...

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    Hi Amy,

    I reckon you should wait about a year. Trust me, 2 puppies is veeerrryy hard work! And expensive. Lol.

    I personally like having a boy and a girl

    It's never too early to start researching!

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    Breeders will test the dogs they keep, especially before they breed. But what of the brothers and sisters of those parents that went to pet homes.

    Most pet owners rarely even want to meet the parents. Most of them don't even want to pay $30.35 to have the limited register papers transfered into their own names.

    They also don't want to go and have their pet dog tested for the genetic problems known to that breed.

    So while the breeder does all in their power to produce good puppies, unless every puppy is screen there is never a 100% guarantee.

    For instance I test the two parents I have, then the two puppies I'm keeping from their litter are also tested, they are all clear, but what of the 5 other puppies that went to pet homes, where they all clear, who knows.

    This is why you just have to do as much as you can but there can be no guarantees.

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