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    Thanks! I love my job and am secretly hoping that it leads to a teaching position with the college! I miss teaching and the head of the junior school knows this and knows that's where I want to get back to so I do see this position as a foot in the door so to speak!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela's Gone Batty View Post
    It's so bad that I actually always make sure I am carrying my keys in a manner that I can use them as a weapon to defend myself. I usually walk Batty on my own, I used to carry a little pocketknife but apparently that's illegal so I don't do that anymore.

    Yup, more gene donors than parents!

    Well done on the job selection Amy!
    Angela, I like your more gene donors than parents, I think I will use this in many conversations if I may?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemiannic View Post
    Angela, I like your more gene donors than parents, I think I will use this in many conversations if I may?
    He he. I agree, it's priceless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemiannic View Post
    Angela, I like your more gene donors than parents, I think I will use this in many conversations if I may?
    Most definitely I was going to say sperm donors, but it's both the mothers and fathers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela's Gone Batty View Post
    It's so bad that I actually always make sure I am carrying my keys in a manner that I can use them as a weapon to defend myself. I usually walk Batty on my own, I used to carry a little pocketknife but apparently that's illegal so I don't do that anymore.

    Yup, more gene donors than parents!

    Well done on the job selection Amy!
    Perfect!!!

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    I have always thought that any crossbred animal will perfom better than a purebred due to hybrid vigour. BUT in saying that i really think it comes down to gene pools and hereditary diseases present in your breeding stock.

    For example, the population of cross bred dogs probably have a much larger gene pool, lessening the risk of being genetically predisposed to a disease from breeding dogs that both have the same problem. When you think about it anyone who will breed their bitch knowingly to a sire of a different breed probably isnt doing all that much research into what diseases his breeding may carry or research into diseases that their bitch may carry. But because theyll most likely let any old tom **** or harry breed his dog to their bitch theres not a huge chance that their dogs will both carry the same diseases and pass them on to offspring. HOWEVER there is still a chance that two dogs may carry the same genetic predisposal to a disease and thats is why we still see cross bred dogs with problems such as hipdisplaysia or heart defects.

    Purebred breeders seem to have a much smaller gene pool to work with unless they import semen. There are only a limited number of purebred, registered and successfull healthy dogs around and unfortunatley if you are looking for a certain trait -eg. coat colour, leg length etc they may choose to ignore or take a risk even though both of your dogs grand dams produced pups with hip displaysia. Therefore because we are looking for certain traits we will only select certain parents and with such a small gene pool people may choose to breed with something that has past generations that exhibited or produced offspring that had disease and hope like hell their pups wont have it or carry it in their own genes.

    I might be completely off the mark but that is the gist i get when people say that hybirds are healthier than purebreds. And from breeding stud sheep and chickens ive found that usually the hybrids healthier animals that grow faster and are stronger.

    I have alot of issues with some breeders breeding deliberatley brachycephalic dogs that are so malformed they must be born by caesarean so they can survive the birth. I dont like the fact that breeders will choose for a certain trait even though it probably diminishes the quality of life that anima has. BUT that is a different kettle of fish and i wont go into it

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    woops some of that didnt make sense but hopefully people might understand what i was trying to say

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    There is no such thing as hybrid vigour in canines.

    Hybrid vigour means that ONLY the best genes from both parents will be passed down with NONE of the bad genes or genetic defects.

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    I prefer the PBs, but, like with bella, if the dog is right, I dont mind CBs, mutts etc. I think in some cases if the society for that particular breed are introducing new blood for the sake of the breeds health, than it is fine. Re the backwards society thing- I have no idea.

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    I think I get where you're coming from Meegz, and I agree to a point.

    Coming from a rescue background I'd have to say that I've seen far less health issues in the crosses than in the pures - however, the chances are that the pures were dumped BECAUSE of the health issues, just as the crosses were. So I don't know if the incidence is more or less when you compare.

    I DO think that we will see a rise in health issues in crosses, especially the DD's, because the parents are not being tested for their known risks. For example, I believe many "labradoodles" will get dumped because of hip displaysia.

    The trouble is that there is a severe lack of education out there in terms of the general public, the average Joe Blow family really have no idea, and when they can go into a pet shop and impulse buy a cute little puppy things will not change. I'd like to see some kind of program incorporated into the school curriculum, even if it's just a few hours during the year, where kids can learn about being a responsible pet owner, etc.

    As much as I don't actually have a problem with cross-breeds themselves, I DO have a problem with the people that deliberately breed them. I think the health risks are actually about the same, whether crosses or pures. BUT if I ever decided I did not want to get another rescue dog, I would absolutely find a reputable registered breeder and get a pure.

    Education is the only way forward imho.

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