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    In the time I've been here on this forum, I've noticed that many of you have commented that you would NEVER leave a dog with a child unsupervised at any time.

    I'm having trouble understanding this.

    I have kids, and if I had to supervise every second that my kids wandered down the hallway into different rooms, or out into the yard where they spend a majority of their time, I wouldn't have a dog!

    My dogs have always been looked at as the protectors of my children.
    As a child myself, I watched one dog die after laying his life on the line - for me. As an adult, I have watched two dogs willing to lay their lives on the line for my eldest son.
    And not once did I ever doubt those dogs with my children, nor did I doubt myself for placing my utmost trust in them.
    Inca goes everywhere with the boys on our property. God, now she's even taken to trying to play basketball with them!
    My boys are extremely aware of how they should speak to a dog, what commands to give and how, what tone of voice etc .

    (The only dog that has ever not come into this was Zed, as I had not known him all his life, and only had him for a while before returning him to breeder quick smart, as you all know.)

    I just don't get it...??? Can you explain?

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    DA...

    I understand where your coming from in regards to dogs protecting kids etc, please excuse me for not going into more detail at the moment, but i'm dead beat tired & i'm falling asleep as im tyipng...

    I will let this thread / positive news speak for it's self & for me for now, note the dog protected the wee toddler for hours on end..

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...e-pet-dog.html

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    Yeah, I loved that story AF. It represents to me what the dog is supposed to be - man's best friend.

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    I did not leave my grandies alone ever with shads pretty and the pups. (6 and under)
    When I am sure the kid and dog are mature enough I then do, yep. Different kids, different ages, depends on them and how I see the situation.

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    I would never leave Boss alone with young children. I would leave him alone with a child that was 12 and older.

    I dont trust young child and I dont trust my dog around them

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    I dont think its a 24/7 deal. However, kids and dogs outside should never be alone - kids run, dog gets hyped - you have trouble. Inside the house - when food is involved - supervision - but other stuff only if the dog has issues.

    Rufus cannot be left alone with my neice and nephew. if I had kids i would never leave him alone with them either. He would either be with me or outside anyway as that is the nature of the beast

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    I think it depends on the dog and the kid and the situation.
    I wouldn't leave Griffen alone with a child outside, he's likely to try and jump when he's excited.
    Inside he's carm but then it would also depend on if I trusted the child to leave him alone.
    I'd have the same issues with Madeline, although she's not a jumper so if the child was over 12 then maybe.

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    I have never left a dog unsupervised with kids. Ever.

    If I cannot supervise the dog comes with me, goes into it's crate or out the back.

    I don't have kids, nor will I ever have kids so constant supervision isn't a big deal for me as kids only ever come to visit.

    When I was about 23 I sat and been watching a 6 year old with one of the farm dogs (the only one trusted enough to be around kids at all) and the little brat sat there, tugged on the dogs ears hard enough to make him yelp then lied about it when he got in trouble. I had been watching the entire time and just wasn't quick enough to stop the tug. My voice did stop the dog reacting though.

    At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how much I trust the dog, I cannot trust the children to always do the right thing so I don't give any chances now.


    Frankly I don't give a hoot if it's a Chihuahua or an Irish Wolfhound or anything in between. There are recorded cases of toy breeds killing people as well - it happened in another country, but a Papillion killed it's owner. It is irresponsible to allow dogs and kids to have complete free reign with one another IMO. Most of the attacks are happening when the kids and dog/s are left alone together and that is the parents fault, not the kids, not the dogs. The parents are responsible for the kids lives and the dogs life/lives. Parents are the ones who need to step up and take responsibility.

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    It all depends on the situation and the level of socialiasation the dogs gets. If you train, either conciously or subconciously (sp?), the dog to be desensitised to children, pulling tail, ears and fur, yelling and doing what children do, then the dpg des not need to be supervised. We HAVE to do that training with our assistance dogs, I think it should be a must with every dog!
    DA you did this training without realising it. Your dogs and children were raised together and learnt from an early age what was acceptible and what was not. Its just that a lot of people dont do this so they have no reason to have faith in their dogs reactions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashaari View Post
    It all depends on the situation and the level of socialiasation the dogs gets. If you train, either conciously or subconciously (sp?), the dog to be desensitised to children, pulling tail, ears and fur, yelling and doing what children do, then the dpg des not need to be supervised. We HAVE to do that training with our assistance dogs, I think it should be a must with every dog!
    DA you did this training without realising it. Your dogs and children were raised together and learnt from an early age what was acceptible and what was not. Its just that a lot of people dont do this so they have no reason to have faith in their dogs reactions.
    I don't believe that any dog should be subjected to having it's tail, fur or ears pulled. I can understand the assistance dogs needing it, but some dogs simply will not tolerate that kind of treatment.

    It doesn't matter how desensitised to having any of that happening the dog should not be left alone with kids. It is different if the dog has been raised with the family kids from a puppy, but when it's a rescue or someone elses' kids the dog shouldn't be left alone with the kids ever. It takes just one second for a dog to bite. Frankly from what I've seen some parents allowing I'm amazed there aren't MORE dog bite cases involving children.

    Just because a dog is fine with the kids in it's family does not mean it will automatically be fine with every kid it meets. I also don't believe that it should be expected to accept that all kids can do what they like to it and that it can't retaliate or deter the behaviour.

    DA's situation is different. Inca has come into a very experienced family with older children who understand what they can and can't do with Inca. Inca is being taught what is expected from the get-go. That doesn't usually happen.

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