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    I'm with you on this DA. When I read about NEVER leaving your children and dog unsupervised I have often thought mmmmmm. Never?

    So, for instance if Jenna is happily sleeping and Ethan is watching TV and I need a pee? No, I am not going to put Jenna in a crate or move DS to another room. I come back and neither of them has moved.

    Now I would not leave Jenna unsupervised with a child I didn't know. That's a different matter but I know my son and I know Jenna so I don't worry about short periods, like going from room to room as DA said. I think it's common sense really and alot of people who say they NEVER leave their dogs and kids unsupervised do not have kids so it's a lot easier for them to practice that.

    Also worth a mention. I will not be leaving Mya and my son alone at all. They do not know each other and I have had many talks with my kids (younger and older, as sometimes it's the teenage ones who ignore what I say more than the little one) about realising we need to treat Mya differently to Jenna until we have all got to know one another.
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    [QUOTE=Tkay;70023]I'm with you on this DA. When I read about NEVER leaving your children and dog unsupervised I have often thought mmmmmm. Never?

    So, for instance if Jenna is happily sleeping and Ethan is watching TV and I need a pee? No, I am not going to put Jenna in a crate or move DS to another room. I come back and neither of them has moved.

    Now I would not leave Jenna unsupervised with a child I didn't know. That's a different matter but I know my son and I know Jenna so I don't worry about short periods, like going from room to room as DA said. I think it's common sense really and alot of people who say they NEVER leave their dogs and kids unsupervised do not have kids so it's a lot easier for them to practice that.

    Also worth a mention. I will not be leaving Mya and my son alone at all. They do not know each other and I have had many talks with my kids (younger and older, as sometimes it's the teenage ones who ignore what I say more than the little one) about realising we need to treat Mya differently to Jenna until we have all got to know one another.[/QUOTE]

    Totally agree.

    I think that's the issue with my not understanding. All my dogs (other than Zed) were either with me prior to the birth of my sons, or were purchased as puppies.
    Zed is the first dog I have ever had come into my life with kids around, and you're dead right TKay. Like Mya, he was an adult dog, unknown to me, so there was no way I offered that sort of trust at any stage.

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    Going back to the person who was talking about no leads, daily socialisation just by being around....that is what I still do. I would not go to a puppy school if you paid me unless for some reasons there were problems. I have just found that in my life and after so many dogs/cats/kids around that every pet fell into what was expected due to repetition, starting as we mean to go on, consistancy but also not being in a strict routine so being adaptable to a change would be taken in stride. etc. With us it is a mix of their needs and ours mixing, finding an acceptable middle ground that we are all happy with.

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    I put the dog in front yard away from kids when they are playing outside. Keeps them seperated. I trust my old boy here with the kids but rescues I was always wary. That said I only had one that showed she could not be trusted. The kids are also taught respect for the dog and are not allowed to climb all over them and give them a chance to get annoyed. If people learnt to read the cues theirs dogs were giving, I think there would be less incidents.

    As kids we used to take our huge rotties out to spend the day with us. I cannot recall ever having an incident involving these dogs. All the talk of behaviouralists, dog aggression, resource guarding, special diets etc have me shaking my head as I wonder when did it all change. Owning a pet has changed so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BULLYT View Post
    I put the dog in front yard away from kids when they are playing outside. Keeps them seperated. I trust my old boy here with the kids but rescues I was always wary. That said I only had one that showed she could not be trusted. The kids are also taught respect for the dog and are not allowed to climb all over them and give them a chance to get annoyed. If people learnt to read the cues theirs dogs were giving, I think there would be less incidents.

    As kids we used to take our huge rotties out to spend the day with us. I cannot recall ever having an incident involving these dogs. All the talk of behaviouralists, dog aggression, resource guarding, special diets etc have me shaking my head as I wonder when did it all change. Owning a pet has changed so much.
    I agree 100%!

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    I think our busy lifestyles have a lot to do with things these days. (god it's hard to type with a whippet on your lap).

    Unlike my stay at home mum most households are double income these days, the kids are always off to some activity or another and the dog is the last thing on everyones mind.

    dog doesn't get out enough, like Chop our dogs as kids were trailing around after us, went to soccer etc. Now there would be a big sign saying NO DOGS on the oval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post
    (god it's hard to type with a whippet on your lap).
    Im sorry to go offtopic again but lol...I know how that feels lol

    But yeh I hate that we have become such an anti animal society even though there are far more pets around than there were before. Its counterproductive!
    I have had dealings with people in other countries where their dogs go everywhere with them! As in shoppinf, parks, holidays, etc. and they are just pets! Everyone takes their dogs with them and they dont have as many issues as Australia and America have with their dogs cause they are happier!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashaari View Post
    Im sorry to go offtopic again but lol...I know how that feels lol

    But yeh I hate that we have become such an anti animal society even though there are far more pets around than there were before. Its counterproductive!
    I have had dealings with people in other countries where their dogs go everywhere with them! As in shoppinf, parks, holidays, etc. and they are just pets! Everyone takes their dogs with them and they dont have as many issues as Australia and America have with their dogs cause they are happier!!!
    I still take Batty almost everywhere, can't take him to the supermarket - but I can take him to the markets

    He comes down to the little shopping village with me and gets to see lots of people walking past, smells the smells and meets lots of different people. I believe that it comes down to how much you are willing to do to get your dog socialised properly. I wish things were different.

    I can't even find a cafe or pub that I can sit outside at to enjoy a meal with the dog there! I have been contemplating opening one out here just so I can go there to eat Not really feasible though.

    I hate not being allowed to take Batty to more places, but with the number of people who are completely irresponsible (knowingly or not) makes that impossible. IMO it doesn't matter if you're a first time owner or a veteran owner if you don't research as much as you can about your breed, train, socialise and adequately care for your dogs you are just as irresponsible as those who don't give a rats about the poor dog they've chained up in the backyard.

    TBH I've taken Batty to a lot of places he's not supposed to go and never once has anyone complained or asked us to leave. Nor do I think they would.

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    Leo is growing and learning so he is never really out of eye sight or next room type distance from the kids and I already. Im confident to leave him and kids in room by themselves for short while. (only short while as im never far from my children anyway)

    When he and kids are older & they want their own space more I don't forsee any issues with leaving them alone, as long as I feel i can trust both the kids and Leo. I wouldn't let other peoples children alone with Leo though would stay in eye sight, Not because of him..Just never know how other kids will behave.

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    I trust my kids and dog together. She's really laid back and will sit or lie with them while they play and occasionally get a makeover or be a patient If they are playing Drs. lol

    She's never shown any aggression to them or anyone.

    With Kids other than my own she is supervised or preferably put into my room.
    I know my kids and they have been taught how to treat the dogs but I don't know what the go is with other kids and frankly I'm not going to put Kimba into a situation where she could hurt a child because of being hurt or teased herself. I don't think it would ever happen BUT I'm not willing to risk it.

    I've seen some kids being horribly cruel to their pets

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