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    Righteo, thanks all. I am understanding a bit more, I think. Lol.

    I guess I'm also not that aware of how other families live with their dogs. I mean I know there are little turds out there, as I recall dogs who've hade their tails run over on purpose, and all sorts of cruelty from children. It's sickening, and I know it happens a lot.

    My boys give their mates a complete run-down of what they can and can't do with Inca. The yougest is a bossy little bugger (must take after his father ) so his friends just automatically do what he tells them. The eldest is a 6 foot 7 inch giant who no-one 'bucks' and his friends who come here are very respectful boys, not only of my son but of the dog also.
    When playing basketball, even his friends don't mind stopping the game every few minutes to help my son teach Inca to push the ball back when a shot hasn't gone in! I find it highly amusing and an ingenious idea, and they seem to as well.

    I guess I was hoping to hear from parents with children who still don't leave their kids unsupervised with their dog, so then I could really try and understand...

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    When the skids came into my life they were 6 and 7, my two remaining Kelpies were getting on in years. The skids were not experienced with dogs.

    The skids loved those dogs, too much in fact. SD would hug them so hard and even admitted that she just wanted to squeeze them she loved them so much. I watched them very carefully, even though I trusted the dogs (both were the over friendly type), but I did not trust the skids.

    They got lots of lessons on how handle a dog, what to do, what not to do, what is appropriate with these dogs and what is appropriate with other dogs. I had to point out to them that a dog is someone else's property and you just don't walk up to it, even to the point were I had to say what would you think if a stranger walked up and hopped in our car?? Well it's the same.

    The skids were also clumsy had bikes and roller skates etc. Hence my next dog was a big Gordon Setter, they ran her foot over 3 days after we got her.

    After a few years they improved, there was never an incident with the dogs, but there could of easily been with dogs that had issues. If my dogs had of had issues they would never of been left alone together.

    Now we have the whippets as well and they are really good with them. SS13 feeds the big dogs of a morning, can remove food from them etc, but he's now been taught what to look for. I am very pedantic with my dogs and their relationship with them.

    As much as I trust my dogs and as much as they are used to children I still do not leave them unsupervised with children under 7 and or kids that do not react well around dogs. I will leave the skids to supervise their friends with the dogs now as they are all teenages.

    Sorry for the long post. But DA is right, there are issues cropping up all the time with dogs and kids. In a nut shell I think you have to know the dog and the child before I'd leave them alone and then think what situation have they been left alone in.

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    I think it also helps it the parents have a little common sence.
    A friend of mine decided to get a lab puppy for her 5 year old autistic/mentally diabled son.
    Little to no training was done with the dog and it never got walked. Yet they would let the two play outside together on their own.
    It got to the point the son wouldn't go near the pup because it would chase and jump on him. While I dont think the pup would have actually attacked they're son, it was an accident waiting to happen.

    Luckily they were finally convinced to re-home the dog.

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    I've been thinking back to when we were little and the pictures of me sitting with my parents adult GSD (not that they were called that all those years ago). There are pictures of me with the dog and the dog has a bone.

    I've even just spoken to my mother about this and her take on it is this.

    Well we never had fences, there were only a few houses in the street, mum didn't drive so she walked to the local shops, the dog went to. Not on a lead, what were they?? As we walked we came across the neighbours, their kids and other dogs, we then called into the butcher, paper shop (Newsagent), fruit shop.

    The pram and the dog waited outside, everyone knew everyone, the dog received pats, people ooo'd and arrr'd over the pram etc.

    The dog was only allowed as far as the kitchen, never on the carpet so he knew his place. My dad picked him up at about 4wks old and bought him home by putting him down the front of his motor bike jacket.

    In other words the dog was very well socialised. He was not on a lead so if he didn't like something or someone he could move away.

    He passed away aged 14, just disappeared into the bush and didn't return. Mum said dad looked and looked by couldn't find him. After that we got a Kelpie and he was raised much the same way, although we had fences by then, but as mum never learnt to drive, everything else was much the same.

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    Thats such a nice story Mac

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bordeaux View Post
    Thats such a nice story Mac
    Ditto.

    Times have changed, haven't they. Sigh.
    Sometimes with all our learning, and all our steps forward, I wonder why it often feels we (society) have gone backwards.

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    I do understand what some have said about younger kids though. My eldest even when he was little always seemed 'old' if that makes any sense?

    Young kids **** the bejesus out of me. I think I would be mentally affected by them long before the dog!

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    Yeah they certainly have.

    My mother could go about her daily routine and socialise the dog at the same time, now we have to attend puppy school, obedience classes etc to get the same thing.

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    For us it's more about visiting children than our own.
    And as much as we all hate to say that breed shouldn't enter into it, the reality is, in some some situations it does.

    Our kids ( now 9 and 15) were never allowed unsupervised with any of the rescues that came through. The only 'full time' time dog they were never allowed around unsupervised was Evey , though she adored the boys,her previous emotional trauma still left her a potential what if.

    With our own dogs , The Choppa Dog was never a concern for me.I knew my dog,I knew my kids. Tyson , again , just never an inkling of doubt ever entered my head. Loppster ,never a doubt either,however,our breed is very late to mature and I take this very seriously ,so I watch at the moment and assess if there seems to be any different tone of behaviour . Loppster also has been through such upheaval with us and has undoubtedly become very protective . But so far she has been everything that a lovely APBT should be.

    It brings us back again to to something a friend and I discuss often.
    What have we, in all reality done to the good old adage 'a boy and his dog' ?

    When I was growing up there were about 9/10 kids in our group from the block , most of us had dogs and they were always brought along with us.
    We never ever made the front page news with a savage dog attack or dog fight ? There may have been a scuffle or two sometimes between a couple of the dogs,but it was never a bloody battle ?
    And we used to 'ride' Bertha, the very first dog of ours I can remember,a black Lab.When she'd had enough she'd scrape us off along the brick wall.There was certainly no new incidents of dog attacks child every few days in the news. Sorry to go off track , but its something I ponder on often. As you said DA,what happened to 'mans best friend' and all that ....
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    And in the time I wrote that Mac posted the same line of thought
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