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    We are in the process of arranging Mya's journey to join us, hopefully Friday 26 Feb. Not long at all.

    I have been looking at the qantas website and have a few queries i'm hoping someone (that means you Shar ) can help me with. This is copied from the website regarding crate sizes:

    Pet Pack Sizes

    It is advisable to ensure that the container will meet these requirements prior to the day of travel.
    Small (equivalent to one unit of baggage)

    * Made of plastic material with absorbent mat and suitable for cats and small dogs up to small terrier size.
    * Size: 56cm in length / 30cm wide / 38cm in height
    * Maximum weight (including pet) : 15 kg

    Medium (equivalent to two units of baggage)

    * Made of polypropylene material with absorbent mat and suitable for dogs up to cocker spaniel size.
    * Size: 66cm in length / 40cm wide / 52cm in height
    * Maximum weight (including pet) : 20 kg

    Large

    For larger pets you must supply an approved crate, which meets the following criteria:

    * Wire mesh - minimum of 8 standard wire gauge
    * Escape proof hinges and latches
    * Bottom covered with a leak proof galvanised tray with corners and edges soldered and rolled up to 9cm
    * Tray bottom to be covered with absorbent material to avoid leakage
    * Show crates must be adequately locked. it is the customers responsibility to provide adequate locks for the crate
    * Must not exceed 84cm in height

    It also says :

    Only small and medium sized pet packs qualify as part of your free baggage allowance. All other pet packs must be lodged directly with a freight company at the freight terminal and will incur a fee. Qantas recommends Australian Air Express.*

    Without having the dog here, how do I determine how big a crate I will need? Is there a simple dog measurement guide anywhere because I can't find one. What size crate do you usually use Shar for the Shar Pei's. I intend to hire a crate so any recommendations there would be great too. I will check with Mya's rescuer but I am guessing Mya is probably about 16kgs now, do you think that will come to more than 20kg with the crate? Sorry for all the questions LOL. I will continue to pound the internet but thought i would ask on here too.
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    no idea .... sorry Tkay! But plllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssss eeeeeeeeeeeee can you post a pic of your new family member? I havent seen her! *pouts* or a link or something ?

    Pretty pretty please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeTheDeedNotTheBreed View Post
    no idea .... sorry Tkay! But plllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssss eeeeeeeeeeeee can you post a pic of your new family member? I havent seen her! *pouts* or a link or something ?

    Pretty pretty please?
    I keep meaning to ask her rescuer because i don't like to copy photos without their permission. I will pm her now.
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    OK, simple!! Ring Chris at Jet Pets (03 9339 4300) Tell him she is a rescue dog and that I (Amanda- Shar Pei Rescue) have told you to contact him. He will determine the size of the crate you need and also do the booking for you if necessary. I imagine at 16 kg she will need to be booked separate to OH, however, you need to tell Chris that she is "luggage" of OH whose ticket # is xxxx.

    Let me know if you need anything more. Having a crap time with this mobile internet card, so call me if you need me 0432 710 765

    Good luck and like everyone else.....waiting (not so) patiently for pics!!
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    Shar,

    I've been watching this post with interest because I have a potential puppy owner in WA. I've contacted JetPets etc etc, but was wondering about insurance.

    JetPets said they don't arrange insurance but it can be done thru the RSPCA??

    What do you think of insurance? Have you ever had any problems sending interstate??

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    I had a friend fly her dog in a crate that looked about the same as the one you had for Tkay.

    It's really important that the dog does not get left out in the sun AT ALL and a grovelly begging sign laminated and zip tied to the crate would help. As would a tarp zip tied over the top or something. I know of two dogs that have been killed by qantas baggage handlers leaving them in the sun for too long and Feb can be really hot so not long is too long.

    And direct flights reduce the risk of your pet being killed by baggage handlers.

    I think I'd put a bit of candle or lip wax somewhere discretely in the crate so that the dog can't eat it but it will melt if the crate is left in the sun.

    I am completely paranoid about the whole idea of flying dog anywhere. I think I'd want a direct evening flight on a cool day or a really early morning direct flight.

    Note Friend's plane didn't take off till 7ish and she had to have the dog in the dog sending bit by 5am - it didn't go through baggage checkin or where any passengers were. And the baggage handler in the freight/dog bit seemed to get along well with her dog so I felt better about the whole thing, and I think it was April/May - less chance of cooking the dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post
    Shar,

    I've been watching this post with interest because I have a potential puppy owner in WA. I've contacted JetPets etc etc, but was wondering about insurance.

    JetPets said they don't arrange insurance but it can be done thru the RSPCA??

    What do you think of insurance? Have you ever had any problems sending interstate??
    Never had any real issues sending interstate except the time that Jake and Elwood flew from Perth to Melboure but were off loaded in Sydney. Didn't matter, they were fine and arrived about 3 hours after they should have .

    Never had insurance and actually asked a breeder who was visiting me here today what he does (on your behalf). He dropped off a boy today who was heading to Japan. This boy has insurance for international travel, but for Aussie dogs, he doesn't bother with insurance either. Again, Chris at Jet Pets is REALLY helpful, give him a call and discuss with him. Do mention my name and he will no doubt look after you.
    SPR fosters:Rowland, Matrix, Mia, Arizona, Romeo, Wrinkles, George, Molly, Su Lin, Ellie, Charlie, Charlotte, Lulu, Montana http://www.sharpeirescue.com.au

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    I had a friend fly her dog in a crate that looked about the same as the one you had for Tkay.

    It's really important that the dog does not get left out in the sun AT ALL and a grovelly begging sign laminated and zip tied to the crate would help. As would a tarp zip tied over the top or something. I know of two dogs that have been killed by qantas baggage handlers leaving them in the sun for too long and Feb can be really hot so not long is too long.

    And direct flights reduce the risk of your pet being killed by baggage handlers.

    I think I'd put a bit of candle or lip wax somewhere discretely in the crate so that the dog can't eat it but it will melt if the crate is left in the sun.

    I am completely paranoid about the whole idea of flying dog anywhere. I think I'd want a direct evening flight on a cool day or a really early morning direct flight.

    Note Friend's plane didn't take off till 7ish and she had to have the dog in the dog sending bit by 5am - it didn't go through baggage checkin or where any passengers were. And the baggage handler in the freight/dog bit seemed to get along well with her dog so I felt better about the whole thing, and I think it was April/May - less chance of cooking the dog.
    I really don't like the idea of flying dogs either, but in my case it is a better option than the green needle. Yes they have to be there 2 hours earlier BUT you can stay with them until they go to be boarded. And after flying something like 40 dogs in the last 12 months, with no calamities, I am way more relaxed about it these days.

    Also, to avoid the hot sun (which is only an issue at departure) fly them early in the morning, or in the case of the WA dogs, I fly thyem at night.

    For all air travel, I wouldn't look past speaking with Chris at Jet Pets!
    SPR fosters:Rowland, Matrix, Mia, Arizona, Romeo, Wrinkles, George, Molly, Su Lin, Ellie, Charlie, Charlotte, Lulu, Montana http://www.sharpeirescue.com.au

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    We are planning to get a pup flown down to us next month through Jet Pets...have previously used dogtainers but apparently jets are cheaper and they seem really good service.

    i hope not too pricy

    since you have dealt with them before, is the minimum age for a pup to fly 8 weeks? , wondering , i know some are ten ha

    thanks alot
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    Personally, I wouldn't be flying a pup until 12 weeks!!!! For a number of reasons. Can he/she not stay with the breeder - even board with the breeder for a few more weeks?
    SPR fosters:Rowland, Matrix, Mia, Arizona, Romeo, Wrinkles, George, Molly, Su Lin, Ellie, Charlie, Charlotte, Lulu, Montana http://www.sharpeirescue.com.au

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