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    George should not be rehomed until he is rehabilitated, it should not be up to the new owner to sort his issues out!!

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    I agree Bully. I guess she just came across as having some very weird ideas. She is a professional dog-listener, so I guess she knows everything. *wink*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Um, she is a dog-listener. Apparently.
    The dog has spent the past 18 months tied to a chain in the back yard. First thing it did upon being rescued was 'go for' rescuers adult son. Obviously I would hazard a guess that males were responsible for most of the abuse.
    The dog was then placed in a foster home with rescuers son, then with daughter, now with rescuer. Not the best stable start to rehabilitation, as the rescuer admitted.

    He does have some issues. Mainly with strangers. So that makes him definately a no-go for us here with children coming over in the afternoons etc. Not going through that scenario again.
    I found that I only got a couple of uestions in, and didn't feel she wished to answer them. At one stage she commented that she would get to that, but wishes to continue with her spiel, so to speak. she then explained that she was sending applicants a book written by Jan Flemmell, and they must agree to continue with the dog's rehabilitation to the letter as instructed by Jan Flemell (?)

    Um, yep, righteo. She also stated that he used to sit on his haunches and put both paws in the air as if he was begging. She stated that he was 'THAT stressed.' I informed her that my Newfie does that when she wants a cuddle or hug, and other Newfies have done it too. It is understood to be a form of affection, and looks very much like a bear hug. She asked if every Newfie I've seen is then obviously stressed? At that point I decided she was a fruitcake.
    The conversation eneded after that. I didn't have a lot to say. For once. Phone call ended.
    This is my first experience with rescuers. Not pleasant. this dog has major issues in my opinion. She said he cannot be within a metre of a stranger. I'm dead-silent, then start asking her questions how she can state he is good with ppl. Ah, I'm lost.
    That's disgusting! Was it possible she meant Jan Fennel? Poor George I hope he finds a great home that understands him and has the time, strength and patience to get him through everything. And I hope that happens soon!

    She sounds like a right whack job IMO!

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    That's the one, Angela. Applicants for this dog are being sent a book by her pointing out how to continue with the 'correct' rehabiliatation of this dog.

    Each to their own, but I certainly won't be encountering her again. I hope George finds a great home. But no, I don't hope it happens soon. I personally don't think he's ready.

    I asked her how he behaves when ppl come into her yard. She said he goes off and barks, so she doesn't let anyone too close, or something like that. I gave up. I said of course he would bark. They are strangers.

    I think I'll just rack this one up to a strange occurance, and move on. As Cleas has pointed out, the right one will come along somewhere, somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    That's the one, Angela. Applicants for this dog are being sent a book by her pointing out how to continue with the 'correct' rehabiliatation of this dog.

    Each to their own, but I certainly won't be encountering her again. I hope George finds a great home. But no, I don't hope it happens soon. I personally don't think he's ready.

    I asked her how he behaves when ppl come into her yard. She said he goes off and barks, so she doesn't let anyone too close, or something like that. I gave up. I said of course he would bark. They are strangers.

    I think I'll just rack this one up to a strange occurance, and move on. As Cleas has pointed out, the right one will come along somewhere, somehow.
    And what is she gonna do if the new owner doesn't follow those "guidelines"...send the rehabilitation police to arrest them???

    What a whack job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    That's the one, Angela. Applicants for this dog are being sent a book by her pointing out how to continue with the 'correct' rehabiliatation of this dog.

    Each to their own, but I certainly won't be encountering her again. I hope George finds a great home. But no, I don't hope it happens soon. I personally don't think he's ready.
    Jan's methods won't work for everyone though

    The only reason I say I hope it happens soon is because that way, in the right home that will be able to give him everything he needs to recover rather than being in an environment that doesn't understand him.

    But that's just me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela's Gone Batty View Post
    Jan's methods won't work for everyone though

    The only reason I say I hope it happens soon is because that way, in the right home that will be able to give him everything he needs to recover rather than being in an environment that doesn't understand him.

    But that's just me
    The dog has issues and by the sounds of it, is not ready to be rehomed. The "rescuer" is putting the dog and new owners at risk of a serious incident happening.

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    I'm just still trying to get over the fact that we are apparently causing stress to our little Inca so much that she is independantly of her own choice putting her paws in the air for a shake and hug.

    George is no longer doing this, so therefore it must have been stress. FGS, she reminded me of my MIL. Pfttt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BULLYT View Post
    The dog has issues and by the sounds of it, is not ready to be rehomed. The "rescuer" is putting the dog and new owners at risk of a serious incident happening.
    I understand that, I really do - I've been in a situation similar with a foster and wound up sending the foster to a new foster home that was better able to help her than I was.

    What I'm trying to say is that if the environment he is in doesn't understand him and what his needs are at this point in time then he is better off in an environment that does.

    This is just my opinion and I do understand liability and the dangers of the situation, on the other side of the coin is the fact that evidently the dog is not getting the stability and attention on a training basis that he needs to recover. From the sounds of what has been typed his issues are not being addressed the way they should be and MAY in fact be getting worse. Particularly with things like "He is great with people but lunges at strangers, has lunged and and 'gone' for (the rescuers) son" etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela's Gone Batty View Post
    I understand that, I really do - I've been in a situation similar with a foster and wound up sending the foster to a new foster home that was better able to help her than I was.

    What I'm trying to say is that if the environment he is in doesn't understand him and what his needs are at this point in time then he is better off in an environment that does.

    This is just my opinion and I do understand liability and the dangers of the situation, on the other side of the coin is the fact that evidently the dog is not getting the stability and attention on a training basis that he needs to recover. From the sounds of what has been typed his issues are not being addressed the way they should be and MAY in fact be getting worse. Particularly with things like "He is great with people but lunges at strangers, has lunged and and 'gone' for (the rescuers) son" etc.
    No no, he 'went for' the rescuers son when first taking him from the pound where he was to be pts. Son still decided to act as foster carer for this dog, which seems to have been okay. He then went away on hols, and look after a while, I lost track of it all.

    He apparently isn't eyeballing so much at male strangers now, but she is adamant that there is still a stranger issue, and does not feel confident if he was in that position. As I stated, just lost. She lso appeared to be a tad emotional about George, which perhaps I'm being cold-hearted, as sure his life has been hell, but when I speak to a rescuer I expect they will be in control of their emotions.

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