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    Quote Originally Posted by Healthy4Paws View Post
    Thanks Clea
    Yes Blue is not human or dog aggressive but yes there is no way she would back down if provoked.
    I want to be able to take her to the beach & have her off lead, not much fun for her on a lead, unless we just don't go there at all.
    Frustrating.
    I know...we have the same thing here, but unfortunately that comes with the territory owning a bull breed! I refuse to put my dogs in a situation where it can hurt them...if you get my point

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeTheDeedNotTheBreed View Post
    whoops sorry myf your right it does say SHE (lol) was on a lead - thats what I get for skim reading!

    Anyway what I said, I still think!

    At the end of the day...almost ALL dogs will react in some way or another if they feel threatened.

    The person with the little dog should never have had her dog there if it showed signs of DA however even if had never shown these signs before......she should have taken it home IMMEDIATELY when she saw what was happening.

    And the part where you said it doesnt look good for the breed.........your right it doesnt!
    However if Blue had freakin licked the thing to death......someone, somewhere would have said she was mauling the thing!
    *sigh* at the end of the day they have a bad rep......because of stupid people! but some just dont see it that way!

    H4P - just be a tad more careful hun....unfortunately some people are really dumb and can put you and blue in a bad situation....try to avoid these situations as much as possible
    Thanks Rach I will

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    I know...we have the same thing here, but unfortunately that comes with the territory owning a bull breed! I refuse to put my dogs in a situation where it can hurt them...if you get my point
    Totally understand Clea

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    Having just read this thread, it's occurred to me that any dog that is called "bomb-proof" (or horse for that matter) is only that way because the owner is responsible, in other words doesn't put the dog into the wrong situation. eg reads the dynamics of other dogs in the area, etc. I'm not talking where an aggressive dog appears out of nowhere. I would not consider any of my dogs bomb-proof, they would fight back if another dog had a go at them.

    I guess I think of it this way, I can ride like a sack of potatoes, I do not consider myself to be an experienced rider, so even a "bomb-proof" horse has the potential to blow up when my arse is in the saddle! It would not be the horse's fault, it would be mine and my lack of experience.

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    I have always had big dogs who would not hurt a fly but little dogs often come flying up acting with complete aggression. As my dogs are happy go lucky that might wag their tail and do a playful bounce and I always seem to be the one who gets that dirty looks!! It is frustrating when owners think that just because a dog is small, acts of aggression are insignificant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    I know...we have the same thing here, but unfortunately that comes with the territory owning a bull breed! I refuse to put my dogs in a situation where it can hurt them...if you get my point
    Exactly.
    Renee (ChoppaChop) never let her Pit Bulls offlead, just in case another dog had a go. Even if the other dog started it, because Renee owned the PB, she would get the blame and im sure her PBs would win the fight.

    Besides, H4P said that Blue wasn't even under control.
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    Blue would never start a fight but if another dog does then she doesn't back down.
    Frosty clears off if another dog barks and snaps at her. I feel much safer with this kind of dog than one that won't back down if the other dog starts it.

    She has only fought back once, when she was cornered, she couldn't get away, she had already backed down and the other dog was still attacking and biting and hurting her. Stupid whippet, and stupid owners. Nobody on the oval was on their side. Everybody could see clearly which dog was the cause and problem. And those owners do not have any fun with their dog when other dogs are around because it attacks other dogs all the time - completely unprovoked.

    I know another whippet owner who has dealt with similar problem by muzzling her dog. So at least if it decides to provoke a GSD into chasing it, it can't damage or hurt the GSD anymore. But if it does that it goes on lead again. Silly dogs, some of them such slow learners, though the first whippet has no hope unless it gets new owners.

    There was one yappy dog (SBF - small brown fluffy?) at the beach this morning that attracted a lot of attention to itself. Frosty went in for a look but kept her distance then came back to me. The owners of the yappy dog picked it up. Sigh. No dog was getting hurt, there was just one getting rewarded for bad behaviour and given no time to sort itself out.

    I get annoyed when owners don't know the difference between dog play and a dog fight and can't let their dogs settle into the groove. But not a lot I can do about it usually so just move on. Is one reason I like the wide beach over the narrow one.

    What MouseAndChicken said - teach your dog to ignore the little dogs or the ones looking for a fight and you will have much more fun on walks and at the beach. "The other dog started it" isn't going to help you if your dog "finishes it" and they take your dog away.

    JTDNTB - if the Amstaff eats the JRT in self defence, I know which breed will get *added* to the BSL. Yeah, not the JRT.

    Effective control means you can call your dog back from a dog fight, or chasing a cat. Most people at the beach don't have effective control. I haven't quite got there but I still go. Frosty now comes when I call her but I still can't always get her back on the lead when I want. I can get her away from small children, kayaks, dog fights, yappy dogs, dog phobic (what is the name of that?) people, kites, gliders... She was good today. Gave the fisho a hard time but he was pretty forgiving. She didn't steal his smokes, he might have felt differently if that happened.

    One thing I agree with Cesar Millan about - I would not let any 8 or 9 month old dog off lead at the beach. Right in the middle of doggy adolesence and rebellion.

    Get the really reliable recall dvd and learn how to train a "conditioned response". So you dog will stop whatever it is doing and return to you no matter what, because the response is conditioned, not something it thinks about first.
    Really Reliable Recall DVD

    It's up to you Happy4Paws. You have a scary looking dog, so it's up to you to make it look as unthreatening as possible to other dogs and their owners. I can recommend a remote drop and bonus roll-over for the best positive reaction.
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 02-07-2010 at 04:59 PM.

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    H4P I agree with you that the bigger dog gets the blame. Mine do, when little dogs come after them to have a go, even if they only try and run away (which is what they do!) other owners will pick up their snappy little babies and reassure them about the big mean doggies...

    It's a fact of life I'm afraid. People don't want to accept blame for their own actions, and they don't want to accept blame for their dog's misbehaviours.

    What we have to remember, as big dog owners (bull breeds or not), is that if something gets started our dogs are likely to either finish it, or inflict more damage if they do get drawn in.

    Don't trust anyone you don't know who has a dog with them. I keep mine on lead if there are ever other dogs in sight.

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