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    Disagreed.
    I would not trust a 4 year old to ride a 'bomb proof' horse on their own.
    I would not trust a 2 year old with a 'bomb proof' dog on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Disagreed.
    I would not trust a 4 year old to ride a 'bomb proof' horse on their own.
    I would not trust a 2 year old with a 'bomb proof' dog on their own.
    I would not trust a 4 year old or 2 year old UNSUPERVISED with ANY animal! That is not what we're talking about here.

    Supervised is another story. I would trust the cattle dog with any child while under supervision. I would NOT trust the children. Same deal with horses.

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    Yes Blue was off lead. We put her back on lead after the little fight broke out. I just don't think it is right that she should have to be on lead when it was another dog that provoked her, I think that the owners of the JRT should have their dog on a lead if it is going to provoke fights. There was another dog barking & Blue went up to it, but then ran off when she realised there wasn't anything going on, but the fact the JRT snapped at Blue made her fight back.

    I want to make her bomb proof lol!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Healthy4Paws View Post
    Yes Blue was off lead. We put her back on lead after the little fight broke out. I just don't think it is right that she should have to be on lead when it was another dog that provoked her, I think that the owners of the JRT should have their dog on a lead if it is going to provoke fights. There was another dog barking & Blue went up to it, but then ran off when she realised there wasn't anything going on, but the fact the JRT snapped at Blue made her fight back.

    I want to make her bomb proof lol!!
    I agree completely. The JRT owners are completely in the wrong as they did not have any control of their dog from the sounds of it.

    You are actually required to have effective control of your dog at all times in public.

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    We are trying to get Blue completely under control, she is good most of the times but she likes to test us, she is only 9 months old tho. The only way we are going to be able to test how under control she is is by taking her to places off lead so we can see how she responds to us.

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    I want to enter the conversation here. I agree...there is no such thing as a bulletproof dog UNLESS you have a Schutzhund trained, highly decorated dog that lives, breathes and eats obedience and training! We mere mortals do not have the experience etc to train a dog that way...to control a dog that way!!!

    As owners of bull breeds...we HAVE to understand what we have! Even though Sumo is not aggressive towards humans or dogs...I know if a dog picks a fight...he will NOT stand down and walk away...it is not in his DNA to do so...he WILL fight and he WILL NOT just back down! It will be ugly and will more than likely be the other dog that "loses" this fight!

    Do I trust Sumo to not do anything if another dog comes up...HELL NO! Do I read his body language constantly when there are other dogs around him...HELL YES! We can not afford not to do that to be honest! Do I let him off lead at beaches etc...no bloody way...just not worth the grief!

    Unfortunately...owning SBT's and AmStaffs...our dogs will often be made the "bad ones" no matter who started the fight. Also...lets just say our Staffy got into a fight with a Jack Russell...that JRT wouldn't stand a chance in hell no matter how much of a loud mouth it is!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Healthy4Paws View Post
    We are trying to get Blue completely under control, she is good most of the times but she likes to test us, she is only 9 months old tho. The only way we are going to be able to test how under control she is is by taking her to places off lead so we can see how she responds to us.
    Sorry...but this is a very risky practice to be honest! Are you willing to take the consequences of this if she is not "bomb proof"?

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    Thanks Clea
    Yes Blue is not human or dog aggressive but yes there is no way she would back down if provoked.
    I want to be able to take her to the beach & have her off lead, not much fun for her on a lead, unless we just don't go there at all.
    Frustrating.

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    Look when I say bomb proof I mean you got to aim for it. You've got to aim for the dog that doesn't give a stuff if something growls at it. I would think most young dogs wouldn't react to an older dog having a go at them.

    No reaction to back firing of cars, thunderstorms huh, what are they. Cats, big deal.

    Anything with it's own brain can make its own choices, but aiming to have our dogs not react to others is certainly one of the most important aspects of dog ownership. Striving for it might be a better word.

    As I said I've had dogs that don't like having their heads jumped on, working dogs in my opinion when they get to a certain age have a low tolerance for idiot dogs. While working in kennels BC's were the hardest dogs to match.

    My setter doesn't give a flying fig about just about everything she's come across to date and I hate to say this because it will cause a hissy fit, I believe it's because I get my dogs out there very early, yes before vacc's and yes I know the risks, and it's my choice to run the risk without being stupid about it. So no one needs to go thru the risks with me.

    I didn't meant to start a war using the term bomb proof, but you've got to at least aim for it and I also stated watch the body language of your and others and look at the dynamics of the dogs at the park, beach or where ever. Because any idiot must realise that the bigger the dog the more chance it's going to win regardless of who started it, and in the end both dogs will be the loser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Blue shouldn't have retalliated if we're gonna be technical.
    Blue was on a lead?? Hold on, im re-reading.
    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    I re-read and it says at the start that he was running off and not listening to them.
    whoops sorry myf your right it does say SHE (lol) was on a lead - thats what I get for skim reading!

    Anyway what I said, I still think!

    At the end of the day...almost ALL dogs will react in some way or another if they feel threatened.

    The person with the little dog should never have had her dog there if it showed signs of DA however even if had never shown these signs before......she should have taken it home IMMEDIATELY when she saw what was happening.

    And the part where you said it doesnt look good for the breed.........your right it doesnt!
    However if Blue had freakin licked the thing to death......someone, somewhere would have said she was mauling the thing!
    *sigh* at the end of the day they have a bad rep......because of stupid people! but some just dont see it that way!

    H4P - just be a tad more careful hun....unfortunately some people are really dumb and can put you and blue in a bad situation....try to avoid these situations as much as possible

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