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    WE have some little kids over, and Bella wasnt socialised with them. She was Barking and growling. i picked her up, took her away from the situation, and then got her treats to teach her that kids = good(treats). They picked up her toy, and she flew off my lap and barked at the kid. What should I do? I dont want to let her off my lap, I feel it is too dangerous for the kids. I dont want to teach her that they are bad by putting her in another room... What should I do?!

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    You could put her on a short lead and give the kids the treats to offer her. Don't give her treats when she barks/growls at them - that just reinforces bad behaviour. Does she have a playpen or something you could pop her in so she could still see the kids but not reach them? Tell the kids not to touch her toys until she is comfortable with them - I wouldn't want someone I didn't know putting their hands all over my stuff either...

    TBH I don't really know beyond that - my 2 haven't had much to do with kids and kids have never been to our house.

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    And don't pick her up or put her in your lap as that would re-inforce the barking. And if she's protective, she's going to try to protect you from the kids as well.

    I'd be just as worried about what the kids might do to the dog as the other way around. Do not let them be alone together.

    What I do with Frosty - is get her to roll over and put her paws in the air and get all the kids to greet her and pat her. And I go by Frosty's reaction to each kid and also pay attention to what the kids do - do they listen to me and do what I suggest, do they try to poke Frosty in the eye or "flap" at her.

    Then I might - show them how to play with Frosty and her toys, though when she plays tug, she often misses the toy and gets me instead, but fetch would be ok as she doesn't (try to) snatch the ball at all. And that would involve lots of treats and pats. It might be ok to get the kids to feed the treats but they would have to hold them safely - in the middle of the palm and fingers flat - so dog can get the treat from the palm with least risk to fingers.

    So a lot depends on how sensible the children are. If they're not good listeners and learners, best to lock the dog up somewhere safe. For Frosty, that's the car, if it's in the shade or at night time. Or the back yard or laundry area.

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    These kids arent really the sharpest tools in the shed... I dont think bella would tolerate heving them close...

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    Lets just say... I am never having kids!

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    It's good if Bella learns to come away from kids when you call, rather than barking at them or running at them. But it's easier to teach that in a more open space with dog on lead and on the ground.

    Frosty puts up with a hell of a lot from various kids. I admit my supervising is sometimes a little slack with my brother's kids but given she doesn't like when she can't see me, I guess between us, there's not much time they get a chance to (try to) do bad things to her. I spend a lot of time saying "I am not your toy", "Frosty is not a toy", "do not run screaming from a dog, stand still" etc. They live with a staffy so they know but sometimes they get a bit excited.

    The school kiddies at the local oval are excellent practice for her, I protect her from them while they pat her, she's upside down so her eyes are a little harder to get at, but those are primary school kids usually old enough not to try to go for doggy eyes.

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    Personally and this is by no means a critisism to you, I would lock Bella away to prevent anything nasty happening.

    I say this because given all the experience I have with the rescues, it is my swf that causes me grief with kids. I CAN NOT trust him and will not given it does not matter that he is 1/6 of the size and weight of the pei, if he were to ever bite a kid, he could still be classified as a dangerous dog and be put down.

    Just not worth the risk given you don't have a huge doggy back ground, nor do you have Bella at a point like Frosty who will roll on his back on command and meet and greet the kids. My swf would have a fit at this request because he has aleays recieved the treatment of a a SWF rather than a pei. A rod for my own back so to speak.
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    Yeah that is what I ended up doing.Whenever I took her out for water or to pee, she would snarl(ish) and have ago at the kids.

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    by keeping her on your lap you are reinforcing the bad behaviour... ie letting her know it's ok to be fearful of the children and react... I don't tolerate a dog snarling, growling, or snapping at any person.... the dog must understand that this is not ok...

    firstly the dog should never be left alone with any child even for a few seconds...I would supervise them together teach the children to give the dog her own space and using a shaker bottle if the dog reacts in a way not acceptable let the dog know. Don't allow the dog on your lap, sitting next to you on the floor is ok... no praise just ignore... ignore all behaviour except that you don't want... Not sure I'm explaining this properly..

    The reason for no praise in this situation is that unless you are 100% acurate at reading your dog's thoughts you can praise when his mind is not relaxed and this will make the problem worse...
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    If the kids are not a regular thing I would just be keeping the dog away from them when there. My old heeler even though he grew up with my kids became testy around little grandies so he was removed from them, if they were inside he was out, etc. I would have put him in our (his too) bedroom too. I don't think that dogs think and he would have just enjoyed the peace.

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