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    To be honest I show because it is fun, I will never start breeding although my parents do, I show their dogs and in 5 years I want a German Wire Haired Pointer to show, if it is a female I will most likely never breed, if it is a male and good enough I will let him be used for stud. If it is a bitch and she is really good and the breeder wanted her back to breed from then I would let that happen but I am not set up and honestly do not have the time for pups.

    I think their should be more neutered sweepies for the oldies but agree that if your dog is good enough to be shown and good enough to be bred from then they should be kept entire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    Do you understand that all dogs go into the ring with the potential to be excellent breeding dogs?

    And that most breeders desex and rehome or keep dogs that fail in the ring?
    No actually I didn't. Thanks

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    Ok , so now that you understand that, can you explain to me why show dogs aren't desexed?

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    Show dogs aren't desexed because when they're in the ring, the judges rate your dog on it's closeness to the breed standard. If your dog is a champion, he's good to sire pups?

    Is that a little bit right?

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    Also...desexed dogs/bitches do not develop the same way as entire dog/bitches. Early desexed Staffies might not get as "boof" in the head as per show standard...they body/frame might not get as broad...etc etc

    I show our girl because she might be special. If she performs in the ring and the judges like her...if she is close to the standard...I can find a Sire that suits her and her trait...she has solid conformation...IS HEALTHY and free of any hereditary diseases, then we will consider breeding with her. This all comes down to...does she have anything to bring to the breed?

    Dog showing is supposed to be fun...a sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    Also...desexed dogs/bitches do not develop the same way as entire dog/bitches. Early desexed Staffies might not get as "boof" in the head as per show standard...they body/frame might not get as broad...etc etc

    I show our girl because she might be special. If she performs in the ring and the judges like her...if she is close to the standard...I can find a Sire that suits her and her trait...she has solid conformation...IS HEALTHY and free of any hereditary diseases, then we will consider breeding with her. This all comes down to...does she have anything to bring to the breed?

    Dog showing is supposed to be fun...a sport.
    Thank you! That explains everything to me.

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    Thanks for that post, Cleasantra. I, too, was wondering about this same thing. The whole assumption that if your dog does well in the ring it's obviously good to be bred and then you will breed it, which is why you need to have them intact, thing didn't sound right to me. So what if your dog is of breeding quality? The owner may still not have any intention of breeding the dog just because they can, so why be forced to leave it intact? But it all makes sense now with your explanation about their actual physical development!

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    Totally agree Liza

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liza View Post
    Thanks for that post, Cleasantra. I, too, was wondering about this same thing. The whole assumption that if your dog does well in the ring it's obviously good to be bred and then you will breed it, which is why you need to have them intact, thing didn't sound right to me. So what if your dog is of breeding quality? The owner may still not have any intention of breeding the dog just because they can, so why be forced to leave it intact? But it all makes sense now with your explanation about their actual physical development!
    You are welcome

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    To breed or not to breed is totally up to the individual. But the purpose of showing is to find the best type and temperament, true to standard.

    I can tell you now I think you'd be really cheesed off if you found out that your dog was as close to perfect as your going to get but they cannot contribute to the breed. In other words you have nothing to offer the breed yet you are there in a confirmation show ring.

    The purpose of showing is you enjoy the competition, you want to win, you want to strive for the best example of your chosen breed and you want to contribute to the breed as a whole.

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