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    Were not Bulldogs bred for bull baiting and PBs bred to fight dogs but NEVER to bite man, so that they could be handled in the ring by anyone and thus the referee if you would call him that, or the owners , could get in and break the dogs up and not get bitten?
    I do agree than man based aggression in a breed is probably not best mixed with PB blood for such mixes may well do harm to the image of the Pitty, being guard minded as well as hard headed when it comes to being told to let go.
    I am not terribly up in their history but enough to know their main use was always fighting, this is no shame to the dogs nor should it be, all the bull breeds were used to fight,no one way back when,kept track of specific breeds, all the Mastiff and Bull breeds were fought if historians are to be believed.
    I would think the Pit Bull simply rose above most at a time when we began to record these things as far as dog fighting goes. Any dog can and will fight if you want it to just some breed are better so were used more, that does not mean that they are man aggressive or can not be reared to be sociable around other dogs.

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    yer pitbulls were used to fight other dogs, and animals, so were bulldogs, mastiffs etc. if you really look closely NEARLY every breed of dog was bred to hunt/kill/eat something. you have the origins of the mastiffs (apparently) from ancient rome who were bred to kill and eat PEOPLE in war (and now look at them , then you have all the bullbaiting dogs, the guarding dogs, the herding/guarding dogs who kept flocks together while protecting them from predators, then you had your terriers to chase rats, rabbits, etc etc. you have your gundogs etc etc etc, i could go on forever.

    the point is very few dogs are being used for their original purpose these days. VERY FEW. but that doesn't stop people training border collies to not nip at kids ankles, huskies to not run away when off lead (and not pull on lead), terriers to resist the urge to chase EVERYTHING that moves, for rotties to welcome EVERYONE into their home. DOGS ARE SMART, THEY DON'T JUST DO WHAT THEY WERE BRED FOR JUST LIKE TEACHING CHILDREN MANNERS AND HOW TO READ AND WRITE YOU TEACH YOUR DOG MANNERS AND HOW TO BEHAIOUR IN PUBLIC AND PARTS OF OUR LANGUAGE THEY NEED TO NO


    ...wow sorry, got a little carried away
    "In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be semihuman. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming partly a dog." - Edward Hoagland

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    Good post well put KT and bang on about Neos, they were indeed known to eat their kill, probably all the war dogs did, I doubt anyone trotted about Monty Python style with a bag of doggy biscuits on the back of their horse for battalians of war dogs 8>)

    You can look at a Neo now, but dont look too hard, they resent that, and still have old instincts closer to the surface than many others from the same sort of background, well trained and socialised Neos are, however as safe as a house to be in public and among people, but at night or when you are out, the house is safe too.

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