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    Gemma wears a snood before she eats. When she was being shown she would wear a lycra coat to keep her coat straight the night before the show. She regularly has her feet hair trimmed so yes you could paint her nails, not that you would be able to see it but it wouldn't stress her.

    If she sees her old lycra coat she gets excited because she always loved being shown. She reacts to it the same way she does if she sees her collar and lead.

    One whippet likes a coat, she has been brought up wearing it.

    As for not letting a dog watch sex on TV - yep the person is slightly weird.

    This person is obviously a bit (lot) extreme, but they are loved and that's probably preferable to how some dogs gets treated.

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    I know people say it is weird...horrible...just not right to dress up your dogs...treat them like "kids" etc.

    Who are we to judge though...if these dogs have a good life...with good shelter...good food...human contact...lots of love etc...does it really matter to us? Is it any skin off our noses really? I bet these dogs are very much loved and more than likely will not be the ones ending up at the pound or used for mass-production of puppies etc.

    I know the not watching sex on TV is a "bit" extreme!

    I put xmas hats on my dogs for photo purposes (my God Sumo hated it). I will buy them a jacket for winter if I can see they are getting too cold. Sumo and Ruby are my "furkids", but they are also dogs.

    Some people can't have children and substitute that with their furkids. Do the dogs suffer from having a dress on and eating off a human plate...I somewhat doubt that. To call it "cruel" I think is far-fetched. Cruel is beating your dog...starving them...leaving them for long periods of time by themselves...tying them to trees in the heat without water...locking them in hot cars...being at fault for them getting overweight and so on.

    We all have different idea as to how dogs should be treated. I think it is "cruel" to have dogs when you work full-time and/or they are left in the backyard 24/7. I would much rather see a dog in a fluffy coat in someones carry bag than one that is left by itself for hours and hours.
    Last edited by Cleasanta; 01-13-2010 at 08:14 AM. Reason: added overweight issue

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    I think it is cruel when you feed the dog what you are having - including the biscuits and tea you have as your morning tea and the dog ends up grossly overweight and is not able to walk around without weezing. I think people going to extremes like that are unrealistic with how they expect there animal to behave. There is a limit and as long as you don't go to extremes then I guess it isn't cruel, however it isn't how I see my dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cate0404 View Post
    I think it is cruel when you feed the dog what you are having - including the biscuits and tea you have as your morning tea and the dog ends up grossly overweight and is not able to walk around without weezing. I think people going to extremes like that are unrealistic with how they expect there animal to behave. There is a limit and as long as you don't go to extremes then I guess it isn't cruel, however it isn't how I see my dogs.
    I agree regarding the food. Mostly because some of the foods are poisonous to our dogs and yeah, they will get overweight. I feed mine "doggy" foods...safe food.

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    Its wrong to substitute dogs as kids. They are not kids, they are dogs, so treat them as such!
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    I don't think it is cruel. I think it is plain dangerous. A dog is a dog, not a human in a furry suit.

    Lets face it, people dress up dogs, paint their nails and other simialr things for purely selfish reasons. They don't do it for the dog, they do it because it pleases them. A dog doesn't have the capacity to look at the latest fashion item it is wearing and ask "Does my bum look big in this?" Wearing nail polish doesn't benefit the dog in anyway. In fact, if we believe what some advocates tell us, all we are doing is flooding our dog's systems with more chemicals.

    The danger of anthromophorising is that you blur the lines between animals and human. Dogs are essentially wild animals that rely on insitinct and learned behaviours. The more we treat them as humans, the more confusing it becomes for the dog who doesn't have the capacity to reason or think like a human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Its wrong to substitute dogs as kids. They are not kids, they are dogs, so treat them as such!
    My dog is basically my child, and that's the closest I will get to having a child. Is it really wrong to love an animal as though it is your child? Batty is still treated like a dog, but I tell him he's my good little man and I tell him I love him.

    I give him the best of everything and make sure that he is happy and healthy, and i intend to do this for the rest of his life.

    I am the first to admit that over babying any animal leads to behavioural issues, and I am the last person to baby anything but, as I said above, I see nothing wrong with treating him as I would a child.

    ETA: When I say treating him as I would a child I mean that he has consequences to doing something bad (if I catch him in the act) he has boundaries, he is given all of the love he needs at the same time as being taught what is right and wrong.
    Last edited by Angela's Gone Batty; 01-13-2010 at 09:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Its wrong to substitute dogs as kids. They are not kids, they are dogs, so treat them as such!
    and it is wrong to treat dogs as garbage...as something bought at Bunnings that can just be disposed off when not needed anymore.

    How is a dog supposed to be treated?

    It is a relative question, because we all see it different.

    I don't treat my dogs as kids, but you know what...I can understand if some people do...people who have tried for years and years to have children to find out they can't have any...so they pour their love into their "furkids". There are extremes I do NOT think are right...but are the dogs suffering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    I know people say it is weird...horrible...just not right to dress up your dogs...treat them like "kids" etc.

    Who are we to judge though...if these dogs have a good life...with good shelter...good food...human contact...lots of love etc...does it really matter to us? Is it any skin off our noses really? I bet these dogs are very much loved and more than likely will not be the ones ending up at the pound or used for mass-production of puppies etc.

    I know the not watching sex on TV is a "bit" extreme!

    I put xmas hats on my dogs for photo purposes (my God Sumo hated it). I will buy them a jacket for winter if I can see they are getting too cold. Sumo and Ruby are my "furkids", but they are also dogs.

    Some people can't have children and substitute that with their furkids. Do the dogs suffer from having a dress on and eating off a human plate...I somewhat doubt that. To call it "cruel" I think is far-fetched. Cruel is beating your dog...starving them...leaving them for long periods of time by themselves...tying them to trees in the heat without water...locking them in hot cars...being at fault for them getting overweight and so on.

    We all have different idea as to how dogs should be treated. I think it is "cruel" to have dogs when you work full-time and/or they are left in the backyard 24/7. I would much rather see a dog in a fluffy coat in someones carry bag than one that is left by itself for hours and hours.
    I have to say I agree with Clea on this one, (Yes I know LOL).

    Personally, the idea of dressing dogs up gives me the creeps, (other than for the cold wet etc and I guess at Christmas for photos) but is it 'Cruel?' No I don't think so.
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    I never said you can't LOVE a dog like its a child, don't TREAT it likes its a child.

    Are you saying the two ways of loving a dog is either to dress it up, or to treat it like garbage?
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