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    I don't know who that question's directed at, but I wasn't suggesting a breed specific test necessarily. I think you should need to prove yourself as a competent handler and a responsible dog owner in theory and in practice. I believe such tests may exist in other countries. I'd find links but I'm too tired!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occy View Post
    Ok - so it the way to get around BSL to register all owners?

    Would you be happy, as an owner, having to sit a test and being tested specifically about your breed as well before you could own it? This is regardless of whether you currently own the breed or not.
    Honestly, I wouldn't mind.
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    Wouldnt bother me, i would do what was required. Would certainly stop spontanious purchases.

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    Not sure about breed specific tests but a sort of dog license test is pretty much what I have suggesting in another thread. If you make it more difficult to buy a dog then hopefully the one's who aren't serious dog owners wouldn't bother. Too much trouble
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    I have been trying to find the BSL Law for NSW...but keep on coming up empty...does anybody know where I can find the NSW BSL law or do you have a copy of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    I have been trying to find the BSL Law for NSW...but keep on coming up empty...does anybody know where I can find the NSW BSL law or do you have a copy of it?
    Hi Dorte this was all I could find :

    Legislation - Dogs NSW - Promoting Responsible Dog Ownership | Dog Breeders NSW |

    hope it helps

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    Probably best to go direct to the DLG site then look at the 3 pdfs, restricted and dangerous breeds, temperament teting and breed assesment. go through companion animals to get to it.
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    According to the NSW council stats (2004/5) - the pit bull type dogs have the highest rate per registered dog of attacks eg if you pass 100 of these, 10 will (try to) attack you. The thing is they are still fairly rare - compared to cattle dogs in NSW for instance.

    Dog Attack Reporting - Department of Local Government

    But the whole BSL legislation seems ridiculous in that they can't actually prove that a dog is a pit bull (or any other breed) or not really. So the way the rules are currently enforced - it goes entirely on council workers opinions - and whether or not the dog has papers to prove it is an "american stafford" instead. So effectively - depending on the opinion of a council worker - any dog without ANKC papers - can be declared a "pitbull" or other prohibited breed and taken away.

    I would rather go with the licence to own a dog. Not sure about dog temperment testing - my dog will fail and she won't even bite a dead (or a live) mouse (or a cornered live rabbit). The only dogs that would pass the tests I've seen are elderly or tiny and crippled (eg no teeth).

    I had problems last night with two potentially vicious dogs - one had already bitten Frosty, and the other - the owner wearing it's muzzle on her wrist like a bracelet - she described as "unpredictable" so it wasn't ok for Frosty to greet it, so it wasn't ok for Frosty to be off lead - because that's what she'd try to do - but that owner let her dog off lead. FFS. I couldn't do a lot about it because neither of them were wearing registration tags - and who would want to go near a dog that's vicious to read it's tag especially if the owner isn't all that co-operative either and our council says you need the rego tag number to report the dog. WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    According to the NSW council stats (2004/5) - the pit bull type dogs have the highest rate per registered dog of attacks eg if you pass 100 of these, 10 will (try to) attack you. The thing is they are still fairly rare - compared to cattle dogs in NSW for instance.

    Dog Attack Reporting - Department of Local Government

    But the whole BSL legislation seems ridiculous in that they can't actually prove that a dog is a pit bull (or any other breed) or not really. So the way the rules are currently enforced - it goes entirely on council workers opinions - and whether or not the dog has papers to prove it is an "american stafford" instead. So effectively - depending on the opinion of a council worker - any dog without ANKC papers - can be declared a "pitbull" or other prohibited breed and taken away.

    I would rather go with the licence to own a dog. Not sure about dog temperment testing - my dog will fail and she won't even bite a dead (or a live) mouse (or a cornered live rabbit). The only dogs that would pass the tests I've seen are elderly or tiny and crippled (eg no teeth).

    I had problems last night with two potentially vicious dogs - one had already bitten Frosty, and the other - the owner wearing it's muzzle on her wrist like a bracelet - she described as "unpredictable" so it wasn't ok for Frosty to greet it, so it wasn't ok for Frosty to be off lead - because that's what she'd try to do - but that owner let her dog off lead. FFS. I couldn't do a lot about it because neither of them were wearing registration tags - and who would want to go near a dog that's vicious to read it's tag especially if the owner isn't all that co-operative either and our council says you need the rego tag number to report the dog. WTF?
    What a douche

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    Oh and I need to post a correction...

    If you combine AmStaff, Pit bull and Pit bull x, the rate of attack is about 3 in 100. Not 10 in 100. Not a huge rate really. Keep those three dogs at home or put them to sleep. It shouldn't be so hard.

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