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    hello
    how is everyone? im new to the board !
    i have got a couple questions and am after advice but i would also like to hear any storys you have heard on puppy scams and where you bought your beloved pet!

    ..so i have been looking at classified ads online, and doing my research on popular scams. i have seen so many ads which i believe are scams ...i ran into one of the Cameroon african scams and im disgusted how they could use an animal or in their case made up pets just to earn money, ridiculous ? and some people fall for it....i and others have emailed them and to talk to they sound so true..... my gosh. have you heard about their scams? they get thousands for made up fees for transport etc

    there was also that story on the news here in aus, where a couple paid $1800 i think it was for a bulldog who didnt even exist , they were sent fake photos i think stolen from a breeder which most of them do, and they went to airport to collect their dog and it wasnt there
    called the owners and the phone was disconnected ... what more would you expect?!


    would you buy like this, is it safe?

    open to any thing you have to say, thanks
    much love x
    Last edited by Poppyx; 01-16-2010 at 07:16 PM. Reason: this board has opened my mind on BYB's . off to the shelter!

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    Hi there,

    I would avoid buying from the internet, that ad sounds like a BYB to me. Why did this person breed 2 litters of puppies if she doesn't even have anyone to buy them yet? She doesn't seem to mention anything about showing her dogs or working them, so what is the purpose of breeding the dogs? If I were you I'd try a rescue, shelter, or registered breeder.

    Good luck!

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    thanks for that =) , i have been monitoring my shelters updates... was considering going down to check out their dogs early feb x

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    Well before we got Tedd i posted a wanted ad on a petlink for a dashound puppy, and got this wonderful email, this guy from adelaide had this 10 week old female puppy etc etc, made up this story. Now i had to fly this puppy up and i mentioned using Dogtainers and he's like no theres one down here and it was a bit cheaper so im like yeah no worries. Get this email.. very poorly written email from this 'pet travel company'. Saying how their account is going thru end of year auditing and how you have to send the payment thru money order/western union to the headquaters which is is Cameroom.. this is where it obviously seemed suspisous. But we almost still went ahead with it because we followed our hearts not our head. Anyways, thought we'd google this and found a forum on fraud.. the whole section of animals, everyone was talking about being scammed by a person in Cameroon. Each had a different name, email address, used different story and even provide pictures, but they're all based in Cameroon. So of course we stopped ourselves. Went back home, checked my email.. and would you believe it, another email from another scammer. The same day we found out!! Anyways, i thought i'd go along with it for a little fun... this was also a wonderful story about a dashound, and he had a pet travel agency he wanted to use, different name to the first person and even has a website. The website does look a little cheap looking but, im sure some people wouldnt know, but when you go to contact us.. its based in cameroon. Anyways, i still went along with it, he wanted $280 to pay for the plane ticket for the puppy. So i asked him if the dog was a smooth haired neverlander, long haired quickalander or wire-haired formalanda.. and if its a neverlander i'll pay over $3000 because they are worth so much .. he emailed back saying it was a neverlander!!!

    So yeah be careful, try and buy locally. We did get Tedd from Emerald, so it did require a flight, but after we nearly got scammed i did a bit of research and so i knew what to look out for, but if you can, buy from someone you can go see the puppies and see that they are real!!

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    Shelters rarely put their best dogs / puppies on the internet. You have to go there regularily and / or make friends with the staff so they know who you are when you ring to see what they have.

    I got Frosty from AWL and she was never on the net. The dog I went out there to see, was gone before I got there and turned out to be the wrong sex - ie they said it was female on the net posting but it was actually a male in the flesh. And I wanted a female dog.

    I wouldn't buy a dog from the internet or classifieds. If I was looking for something specific like border collie, I'd contact the local/state club and ask them to recommend breeders, and I'd ask the local? or rural vets if they know anyone who breeds them (with vet supervision).

    I take it you know what BCs need - like an hour of exercise both morning and night, and a big back yard or farm and plenty of things to do, and some work on the coat to keep it from growing into dreadlocks and obedience training for you leading ideally to farm / agility / dog sports to keep the dog's brain engaged constructively?

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    Wow, thanks for that organanic sab, they're trerrible arnt they! argh. well yes i emailed them a couple times too.... its funny. but not funny due to some people paying them

    also hyacinth , i think we will do the shelter run in a few weeks.
    im not specifically after a BC, as we do already own 2!
    one is a full time working dog, farm work, herding . and the other works part time, and is my full time companian! i exercise him myself on our property.

    thanks again x

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    If you are looking for a puppy on the internet then the chances are you are looking for a specific breed and not a bitsa, so, if that is the case, simple way to avoid a scam is to ask for a full copy of the pedigree papers and then call the canine control council that issued the papers and ask if they are genuine, if yes, how many litters has the bitch had registered.

    The later will give you an idea if the breeder is a serious breeder or in it for any money they can make. A bitch should not have more than 2 or 3 litters, and litters should be at least a year and a half apart.
    Nev Allen
    Border River Pet Resort

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    Closing thread.

    Sorry Nev - this thread got bumped by someone having a conversation with himself. Typing with one hand I suspect.

    PS avoid the qu!ck sales web site - it seems to attract scammers and other dodgy people because their mods do not remove dodgy entries quick enough. And they spam other websites to promote their website...
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