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    Masha, sorry I missed your earlier post about coming when called.

    The way I use the "diner" call and "come" are different. When I say diner all the dogs jump up and head to the garage where their meals are prepared, mine are greedy so they always respond.

    It's not something that I use to call them with on a daily basis. It's an emergency call only.

    In my puppy classes some people, not all, are like my step-kids they are always calling the dog to come, no matter how many times I advise otherwise and after a while it becomes to the dog. (hope this is making sense). It still get them to do recalls and come-fores etc. But just suggest they announce diner.

    In our house you also have to spell out walk, if you don't actually plan to go on one, and nobody says car either. Because all dogs will get excited.

    So I guess what I'm trying to say is that whenever I say the word diner, I follow thru and the dogs get something out of it too.

    Unlike come which I teach using an intermittent schedule of reinforcement and then nothing once they have reached a high level.

    I hope this all makes sense. You sound like your making great progress with your little one.

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    Good idea DGP.

    You both might like to get a crate for him so he can be confined until he's learned what acceptable behaviour for a dog is.

    And do let your friend know about the chi rescue group if she can't go the distance.

    Getting a different dog before she's learned to train the first one won't help much, not that I can talk.

    I have been using K9Force "triangle of temptation" with Frosty. She always had to sit calmly for her dinner but now I've upped the stakes. She has to come to me going right past her dinner before I let her have it. She also has to practice stay - for gradually increasing lengths of time.

    She did a beautiful recall at the beach - she'd gone about 200m away from me - almost out of sight playing with another farm dog, and up wind, and I called her and waved (voice getting carried the wrong way by the wind) and she came belting back. Eventually. Well very quickly for her. Like two calls and she was back travelling at full speed - I wasn't even sure if she'd heard me the first time.

    And then when it was time to go home, she did not want to be caught. Sun was getting very burny and I so wanted to leave. She did want to get in the car when she saw it though. I caught her by going for a swim and then beating her back to the beach. Just. If I'd been a little less slack I could have walked up to the next set of cliff stairs and caught her there too. Stairs are becoming a reliable place to catch her despite the fact that she knows what I'm going to do. She has to concentrate so hard going down them, I always get to catch her. And she always comes down them because she can't bear to be without me. Sort of. Mostly. Well so long as she thinks she knows where I am - but I'm working on that. At the main park - I call once and if she doesn't come, I hide. So that call is getting more reliable.

    "Dinner" doesn't always work. This morning - she didn't eat breakfast. She's not always interested in food. I'm pretty reliable at treats and praise any time she comes back to me. I think sometimes she uses this as an excuse to get an early breakfast. But treats by themselves do not work all the time. Especially when she has something better to do (like clean out the hedge) or is a bit over tired or just isn't finished yet - in her opinion. But we get a little better every day.

    I've been watching old video of another of our dogs (3/4 kelpie 1/4 heeler x) who was 100% reliable with fetch and come at about 14 weeks old. Shock horror. That dog just loved doing things to please people all the time. However there's no way she'd leave you alone at all ever. At least Frosty is happy to sleep some of the time when I want to play on the computer. Can't have it both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post
    Masha, sorry I missed your earlier post about coming when called.

    The way I use the "diner" call and "come" are different. When I say diner all the dogs jump up and head to the garage where their meals are prepared, mine are greedy so they always respond.

    It's not something that I use to call them with on a daily basis. It's an emergency call only.

    In my puppy classes some people, not all, are like my step-kids they are always calling the dog to come, no matter how many times I advise otherwise and after a while it becomes to the dog. (hope this is making sense). It still get them to do recalls and come-fores etc. But just suggest they announce diner.

    In our house you also have to spell out walk, if you don't actually plan to go on one, and nobody says car either. Because all dogs will get excited.

    So I guess what I'm trying to say is that whenever I say the word diner, I follow thru and the dogs get something out of it too.

    Unlike come which I teach using an intermittent schedule of reinforcement and then nothing once they have reached a high level.

    I hope this all makes sense. You sound like your making great progress with your little one.
    If I say "tea" or "breakfast" there's 2 dogs at my feet quick smart as they know what's coming. You can't say "walk" in our house either! And if you even go near the cupboard where their food and treats are kept you can guarentee there's a pug x at your side before you know it!

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    aww above me ^^^ sounds so familiar!
    i can picture it!

    mine love 'plaain biscuiees' ... plain biscuits that is.... but the shih txu barks at me when im eating or serving food. such a pig . impatient! x but adorable

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    I got my dog from the RSPCA and she is the most loving dog....i think it is this sort of attitude that makes me wonder if perhaps it should be the people that own dogs not the dogs that need to be registered!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PEPSI View Post
    I got my dog from the RSPCA and she is the most loving dog....i think it is this sort of attitude that makes me wonder if perhaps it should be the people that own dogs not the dogs that need to be registered!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseandchicken View Post
    Masha, sorry I missed your earlier post about coming when called.

    The way I use the "diner" call and "come" are different. When I say diner all the dogs jump up and head to the garage where their meals are prepared, mine are greedy so they always respond.

    It's not something that I use to call them with on a daily basis. It's an emergency call only.

    In my puppy classes some people, not all, are like my step-kids they are always calling the dog to come, no matter how many times I advise otherwise and after a while it becomes to the dog. (hope this is making sense). It still get them to do recalls and come-fores etc. But just suggest they announce diner.

    In our house you also have to spell out walk, if you don't actually plan to go on one, and nobody says car either. Because all dogs will get excited.

    So I guess what I'm trying to say is that whenever I say the word diner, I follow thru and the dogs get something out of it too.

    Unlike come which I teach using an intermittent schedule of reinforcement and then nothing once they have reached a high level.

    I hope this all makes sense. You sound like your making great progress with your little one.
    lol mine are all the same.

    Cant say walk, brekky, dinner, bath, car or swim in my place!

    Its like having children around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disneygotpierced View Post
    Well I've known her for a long time and I've never seen her so distraught. She is flaky but my gut instict told me she does love Dexter and even though she gets 'bored' with him and wants a replacement, I don't think she can actually go through with it.

    In the end I felt like I needed to do what my gut told me to do. Hopefully I made the right choice.
    Yeah, Me and my horse have clashes all the time, and I have made the decision to sell him so many times, but in his heart he is a little star, and he is in his prime. I could never sell him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxerini View Post
    Yeah, Me and my horse have clashes all the time, and I have made the decision to sell him so many times, but in his heart he is a little star, and he is in his prime. I could never sell him
    You sound just like Tiff!

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