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    Hi Occy,

    I don't give two hoots about the politics.

    I wan't to see appropriate full page adds in newspapers, on TV, over the radio etc educating people on inhumane breeding practices and what that entails.

    On what lies behing that sweet little face in the pet shop window, and that her mother is miserable and bred to death.

    People need to know about the hundreds of thousands of family pets who will die alone in a shelter.

    Nic

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    Yes but PETA isn't the group to tell the truth. There needs to be an independent look at these places and a report made. Government lobbying is the way to go. Clover Moore etc

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    We are lobbying for a public inquiry, but SUPRISE, suprise all the people with vested intrests and profiting enormously are opposing that too

    Never mind getting some facts and addressing the core issues....they are working their arses off to cover their arses and protect their $$$$.

    What a disgrace. They have no intention of doing the right thing, never have, never will.

    I tell you what, it WILL all come crashing down upon them, and they will be exposed for all their worth!

    Nic

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    Hi occy, I dont claim to be a font of knowledge unlike yourself, or superior to others in any way, I dont know what your problem is, but you seem to have a big chip on your shoulder.

    You say you wernt a trainer? but how come on other forums you say you are?, and make your self out to be one? Is someone running around with two same nicks and the same contacts that you have?

    Seriously mate, you have got to get your facts sorted.

    I answered the post and was attacked by you for some idiotic reason.

    I will answer some of your other billigerant questions, No I am not a breeder, and No I never stated I was here or anywhere else for that matter, and No I would not breed Overtly DA dogs.

    I dont have a problem with DA dogs as I stated in my first post, along with the fact that within a givin litter an overtly DA dog may be born regardless of the Sire and dams temperament, it's getting a bit like a merry-go-round with you isn't it?.

    Best wishes
    Beau.

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    LOL you say you've never seen me before but you know what I say on other forums LOL. Stalker? Bored housewife? Liar?

    You've not answered my questions - what exactly are your qualifications? How is it you believe you know so much about dog behaviour? You're not a breeder - so what are you?

    I'm not on any other dog forum (well there is one US forum but I havent been there in ages) nor do I paint myself as a trainer. When I was a trainer I did so. It is no longer how I identify myself. I don't really need to justify myself to a stranger who hides behind a pseudonym and reveals nothing of themselves but expect others to be forthcoming.

    Aside from accuse me of things and make it clear you have nothing better to do, you have not said anything of value regarding what qualifies you. I answered you and I await your answer? or are you just going to keep insulting me instead?

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    I know who Beau is lol - been a while (haven't missed it much I must admit). You had no quals then, I suspect you have naught more than an attitude now either. Oh well - I've lost interest now.

    Billy - if PETA approached things in a more moderate fashion they would win more followers. It's like the RSPCA - now the Hugh Wirthless is gone more and more people are supporting them again

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    Honest to god Occy you have a BIG problem.

    I just answered your questions! just then and in my 3rd post! The dog forum world is a small place, and now you accuse me of stalking hey, Lol you are consistant I give you that.

    Who is Beau occy? who do you think I am? Is this the reason you are behaving this way, you think I am someone else you think you know or something?

    Beau is my name, and no I have not spoken to you before this thread, and to be honest I am glad of it.

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    Perhaps I am slow - I am willing to take that on the chin - but could you please redirect me to where you established your credentials? All you have said is what you are not.

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    Ok this may not go down well.......
    I dont love dogs I love mine and like some other peoples but as a whole I dont love them, I dont want any cruelty or dumping or anything else.
    Let me rephrase I am warey as I was attacked by my parents dog (springer spaniel) as a baby and have not had many good experiences, so am cautiose
    What I am trying to say is along with not being up with the abbrevialtions I am not up on my aggression research either but from what I am understanding you are saying that if I breed 2 god tempered dog i should get a good one to?
    I dont understand how that makes sense as there are many sets of genes that can be chosen from.
    For example I have green eyes and my hubby brown both from the brown eyed gene my daughter has green eyes and my son blue ( so does my bro they are the only 2 for as far back as we can tell) he also has red hair again somkind of throw back gene.
    So how can you say that its the ( good ) breeders fault if they are agro? Please enlighten me I wish to learn
    Also abrev enlightenment please.
    Are other types of dog open to this problem as I have heard that daschunds can be very agressive obviously not as much of a problem as they are small.
    Fill me with knowledge.
    I feel bad about my previouse comment I love all animals including dogs I just am unsure of big ones (the breeds you are talking about sorry) but am willing to judge on the individual case as i have met some really good dogs and some bad owners!
    Hope I havent offended all of the big dog staffy pitt etc lovers......

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    Hey All.
    I have avoided this topic as it seemed a little heated. But I cannot sit by and listen to people support groups like PETA and their extremist opinions they insist on forcing on others.

    Why is the worldwide kill rate of unwanted pets the fault of registered breeders? Lets not forget that some dog breeds have been around for hundreds and even thousands of years. Yet the current situation with excessive unwanted companion animal numbers seems far more than ever.

    Billy/Nic- I love what you do. But can you tell me what percentage of the dogs you see in shelters are purebred, from registered breeders? I know that purebreds are present in all pounds, but how many are from registered breeders, or just from BYB? And are purebreds a confirmed minority amongst the many PTS all the time?

    People like those in PETA have no regard for why these companion animals have been kept and bred for all these years by humans. Their insistence on mandatory desexing by ALL breeders would see the extinction of many breeds. If you think that is extreme, think of their mandates. Their ideal situation is desexing of EVERYTHING canine. No more dogs after one generation.
    Sound far out?

    That's what these groups are. Their ideas are not based on reality. Reality lies in education, not facist regulation.
    Regulation needs to be of individuals, not breeds and or species.
    Sorry to ramble on...

    Back on topic. In my experience ANY aggression is largely environmental. Yet dogs showing aggressive tendencies should never be bred from. There are more than enough good individuals of any breed to never have to resort to breeding anything with questionable temperament.

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