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    I agree with Anne.

    It is dangerous to make assumptions as to how the dog was treated...whether they looked after him or not etc. Sure some things sound a bit odd, but the owner might just be one of those aloof type of people.

    If you can't afford vet bills...vaccinations...desexing etc, then you shouldn't have a dog. What about all those unexpected expenses...like emergency surgery etc.

    Look...I think it is great you have been looking after this little guy, but I don't agree with the way it has been done. You should have followed the right/lawful avenues regarding handing him in to the pound. The pounds have a bigger chance of finding his rightful owner than you do!

    I can understand you state your are attached to this little guy. Rescuers deal with this on a daily basis, but still in the end do what is best for the dog.

    Sorry...I can't sit here and give you a pat on the back saying..."you are doing the right thing", when I think you have done things the arse about way. I also agree with Anne that you took him away from the area he was found in, so it is up to you to take him back there for "the owners" to view him.

    People here mention what this guy is up for in fines. But by you taking this dog away from his area...not handing he in to the pound IN THAT AREA...you could just as well have stolen him IMO. This guy might have broken the law, but so have you!

    Question...if you hadn't found him...would you have considered getting a dog anytime soon? How do you know that being with you is better for him than being with either his rightful owner or someone coming to the pound who REALLY wanted a dog and could afford it?

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    Zen.....Im sorry if you feel as though we are 'ganging up' on you but we are really just trying to give you advice about the situation.

    As much as you may love this dog, you cannot effectively care for it if you are not financially stable.

    I will be honest with you.....

    I lost my job and was out of work for 2 and a half years. I have 3 dogs (medium size).
    I was not financially stable at ALL even with my partner bringing in a single income.
    I had a little bit of money stored away which was used for vaccinations, food, check ups and some left over for the IN CASE OF EMERGENCY!

    Nearing the end of 2 and a half years......I was pretty well broke as was my OH!

    But my animals will always come first......If I only have enough money to buy food for either myself or them......I would chose to starve!

    Could you do this? You really need a stable income to own pets! Trust me I made it through that period without giving up my pets but I was lucky to find work in the nic of time! I had already started contemplating finding someone whom was better capable of caring for them than I was (although I loved them so much, it isn't always enough)

    Dont put yourself or your animal in this position, its not fair on them

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    Good post, Judge. Honest too.

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    Zen.....Im sorry if you feel as though we are 'ganging up' on you but we are really just trying to give you advice about the situation.

    I really do loath this 'ganging up' terminology though. It's rediculous.

    If we all agreed with everything Zen has said and done, would we be "ganging up" then, albeit in a good way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Zen.....Im sorry if you feel as though we are 'ganging up' on you but we are really just trying to give you advice about the situation.

    I really do loath this 'ganging up' terminology though. It's rediculous.

    If we all agreed with everything Zen has said and done, would we be "ganging up" then, albeit in a good way?
    I agree...it is not about "ganging up"...it is about advice. We all think different and it is this way things get put into perspective...heaps of different angles in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    I agree...it is not about "ganging up"...it is about advice. We all think different and it is this way things get put into perspective...heaps of different angles in my opinion.
    Exactly. Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Zen.....Im sorry if you feel as though we are 'ganging up' on you but we are really just trying to give you advice about the situation.

    I really do loath this 'ganging up' terminology though. It's rediculous.

    If we all agreed with everything Zen has said and done, would we be "ganging up" then, albeit in a good way?
    I know bad terminology *sorry* but just trying to look at it from Zen's point of view

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeTheDeedNotTheBreed View Post
    I know bad terminology *sorry* but just trying to look at it from Zen's point of view
    Oh, I wasn't meaning you, Judge. You were pointing out not to feel that way, just in case Zen was.

    It's just I've come across this before here. If a couple of ppl agree, and happen to disagree with the poster, it quickly and unfairly gets labelled 'ganging up.'

    It's that which I would like to see change.

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    Zen, I too have to agree with the others and I hope you will do the right thing, go through the proper processes till, if it is meant to be, the dog will then become yours legally if previous owner can not be located.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Ok on the practical side, given that Zen has opted for the "give the dog directly to the owner", the other option being "give the dog to the pound of the council that covers where it was found" and putting your name next to it for adoption if the owner is not found.

    What can Zen do to be sure she is handing the dog to the right person? Check his driver's licence? Write down his car rego plate? Check the dog's registration form? Ask to see photos of the guy with the dog. I admit I've got very few of me and my dog. But I've got lots of my dog. Ask him to bring his other dog - to help see if they recognise each other.

    Unfortunately what has happened to Zen (imprinting) is how pet shops sell puppies and kittens.

    Zen - if you have to hand the dog back - you will get over it, it just might not be the right time for you to have a dog.

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