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    Forgot to mention that SDCH has the contract with Sydney Council, any dogs picked up in that area get sent to SDCH.

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    Greyaregreat

    SDCH has the contract with Sydney Council
    That's not what it says on the Sydney Council website...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreysAreGreat View Post
    Especially if he can't remember what it looked like! I've NEVER heard that one before!
    he also said of the breed 'they all look the same anyway' !! as if any one of them would do.

    i don't like these people already, and i don't even know them. neither does my husband, who thankfully, is ok now.. just work stress.

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    i have that companion animals act page bookmarked thanks..

    i have also suggested these guys ring around a bit more too.. i had finally remembered it was a vet hospital in Enfield i rang, listed as a pound for the area adjoining, andthey said they had a silky brought in that very day.. i have given them the number.

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    Since when did 3 days turn into 4 weeks??! This is what you said when you first spoke of Nelson;
    last night my husband came home with Nelson. (pics are in my album) he had been hiding away in the warehouse at my husband's place of work for maybe 3 days they think.. once they found him tho, my husband had to bring him home.

    And now you say he was there for 4 weeks. Bullocks.

    Why would someone report a missing dog to a dog pound and then try to claim a dog of unknown origin as their own! Think about. If he had NOT already phoned the pound reporting his dog missing I could say that there might be some chance that he was trying to get a free dog.

    I can't beleive that others are encouraging you in this silly idea and that you are being so selfish with this. His dog was in his area and YOU drove it hours away and yet now you expect him to do all the running around to get his dog back.

    I can well understand making sure it is his dog before you hand the dog over but stop playing games with this whole thing.

    Of course the dog is traumatised. He is living in a strangers home!! A stranger who admits she is very inexperienced with dogs. He has been taken miles away form his home and has been lost for up to 2 weeks now.

    This whole idea that you are rescuing this dog is ludicrous. We see it so often and it happened on this forum not that long ago with a member who recently asked that their membership be deleted. They also were under the illusion they were 'rescuing' a dog they had found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    Since when did 3 days turn into 4 weeks??! This is what you said when you first spoke of Nelson;
    last night my husband came home with Nelson. (pics are in my album) he had been hiding away in the warehouse at my husband's place of work for maybe 3 days they think.. once they found him tho, my husband had to bring him home.

    And now you say he was there for 4 weeks. Bullocks. .
    Annie Zen said that her husband had seen him hanging around for 3 days or so. However someone else from the workshop had said to him that they had seen the dog hanging around the area for approx 4 weeks or so.

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    Thanks Judge, I've found now where she says that the dog was apparently seen within the area for 4 weeks.

    It still isn't right what is happening. As I said, I've seen it before and will see it many times again I am sure. Someone finds a dog, convinces themselves that the owners are not worthy of owning it for all manner of reasons, and sets their mind to keeping it. This is regardless of laws and regardless of the fact that someone may be desperately missing their dog.

    I only hope that if ever any of my dogs become lost, that some one doesn't find them who decides that they will be a better owner than me.

    zen knows that she has decided she is keeping this dog. She stated within the first few days of having it with her that she is already attached to it. She is now convincing herself that the dog was mistreated and unloved in its previous home and that the person who thinks it may be their dog is not likeable. She already feels she will be a better owner because she is home more often than the other person.

    The problem is, this guy must love his dog to be looking for him. If he is the rightful owner of this dog then he should be returned.

    zen has already stated she can not afford to vaccinate, chip or desex the dog just yet and she is inexperienced with dogs. She has taken on a dog, that may belong to someone else, and this dog may have all manner of behavioural problems and unkown health problems because it has an unknown history. As an inexperienced dog owner, this is not exactly a perfect match is it.

    If the dog turns out to be not the other guys dog, then so be it. After the mandatory period she is legally allowed to keep it. With support and advice from her Vet and from forums such as this she will hopefully be able to wade through any problems that may arise with behaviour and or health. Hopefully she will be able to get him vaccinated, chipped and desexed within a short time frame too.

    She should not allow herself to think she is keeping this dog until that time period lapses. She should not convince herself that the dog is unloved and unwanted either. She should make no pre-judgement on the person who feels it is their dog through her desire to keep the dog.
    Last edited by Anne; 12-16-2009 at 09:49 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    Thanks Judge, I've found now where she says that the dog was apparently seen within the area for 4 weeks.

    It still isn't right what is happening. As I said, I've seen it before and will see it many times again I am sure. Someone finds a dog, convinces themselves that the owners are not worthy of owning it for all manner of reasons, and sets their mind to keeping it. This is regardless of laws and regardless of the fact that someone may be desperately missing their dog.

    I only hope that if ever any of my dogs become lost, that some one doesn't find them who decides that they will be a better owner than me.

    zen knows that she has decided she is keeping this dog. She stated within the first few days of having it with her that she is already attached to it. She is now convincing herself that the dog was mistreated and unloved in its previous home and that the person who thinks it may be there dog is not likeable. She already feels she will be a better owner because she is home more often than the other person.

    The problem is, this guy must love his dog to be looking for him. If he is the rightful owner of this dog then he should be returned.

    zen has already stated she can not afford to vaccinate, chip or desex the dog just yet and she is inexperienced with dogs. She has taken on a dog, that may belong to someone else, and this dog may have all manner of behavioural problems and unkown health problems because it has an unknown history. As an inexperienced dog owner, this is not exactly a perfect match is it.

    If the dog turns out to be not the other guys dog, then so be it. After the mandatory period she is legally allowed to keep it. With support and advice form her Vet and form forums such as this she will hopefully be able to wade through any problems that may arise with behavioru and or helahth. Hopefully she will be able to get him vaccinated, chipped and desexed within a short time frame too.

    She should not allow herself to think she is keeping this dog until that time period lapses. She should not convince herself that the dog is unloved and unwanted either. She should make no pre-judgement on the person who feels it is their dog through her desire to keep the dog.

    I am going to be a fence sitter here because I think Zen has done the right thing in regards to coming onto the dog forum for advice....most people would have made up their minds and would not have told ANYONE or contacted pounds etc.

    Zen.....I think you need to have a meeting with this person, ask them for proof that they own the dog (registration, photos etc) and then if you still feel like you are doing the wrong thing by the dog then you should offer to buy him! Explain you are now attached etc etc and you may find yourself taking your new companion home.

    Unfortunately this is all you can really do as you are required by law to return the dog to its rightful owner........or you may be prosecuted for stealing.

    I feel for you (if this animal is being neglected) but the law is the law

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    Thanks Judge, I've found now where she says that the dog was apparently seen within the area for 4 weeks.

    It still isn't right what is happening. As I said, I've seen it before and will see it many times again I am sure. Someone finds a dog, convinces themselves that the owners are not worthy of owning it for all manner of reasons, and sets their mind to keeping it. This is regardless of laws and regardless of the fact that someone may be desperately missing their dog.

    I only hope that if ever any of my dogs become lost, that some one doesn't find them who decides that they will be a better owner than me.

    zen knows that she has decided she is keeping this dog. She stated within the first few days of having it with her that she is already attached to it. She is now convincing herself that the dog was mistreated and unloved in its previous home and that the person who thinks it may be there dog is not likeable. She already feels she will be a better owner because she is home more often than the other person.

    The problem is, this guy must love his dog to be looking for him. If he is the rightful owner of this dog then he should be returned.

    zen has already stated she can not afford to vaccinate, chip or desex the dog just yet and she is inexperienced with dogs. She has taken on a dog, that may belong to someone else, and this dog may have all manner of behavioural problems and unkown health problems because it has an unknown history. As an inexperienced dog owner, this is not exactly a perfect match is it.

    If the dog turns out to be not the other guys dog, then so be it. After the mandatory period she is legally allowed to keep it. With support and advice form her Vet and form forums such as this she will hopefully be able to wade through any problems that may arise with behavioru and or helahth. Hopefully she will be able to get him vaccinated, chipped and desexed within a short time frame too.

    She should not allow herself to think she is keeping this dog until that time period lapses. She should not convince herself that the dog is unloved and unwanted either. She should make no pre-judgement on the person who feels it is their dog through her desire to keep the dog.
    Phew! I'm glad someone said it. I've been itching at my neck, writing reply after reply here, then walking away as I thought it would probably come out cruel and nasty, but now it has been said.

    I'll put it like this - it doesn't matter one little bit whether the owner of this dog turned out to be Blue-Gama (you know how I went off the rails at that one) the point remains that there can be no judgement of whether the owner is oka, or feeds it enough, or brushes it enough, or so on...

    If this is his dog, then it IS HIS DOG.

    Zen you have commented a couple of times that except for the greyhound which unfortunately didn't turn out for you, this is the first dog you've had in your life. Please forgive me if I'm wrong. But because of this, I've been trying hard to guage how you can possibly ascertained the reasons this little fellow is allegedly traumatised?

    If the dog turns out to NOT be this man's, and no owner comes forward after the specified time and you have done all things necessary to help in finding the owner - sure, enjoy your new friend.

    But until that moment...

    Put it like this, please - I know an awful lot of children that I believe do not live with great parents. That does not give me the right to believe I would be a better mother to them. Even if I was, it does not give me the right to make that choice.

    I hope you understand where I am coming from.

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    I am also sure I read somewhere that the man who thinks it is his dog said that he has another. The dogs may be attached to each other and it is not fair that they be pulled apart because someone else wants to keep him.
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