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    I know what you mean, because it makes you wonder why they were there in the first place?

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    Perhaps guys,perhaps...but remember this is an organisation that really doesn't need a 'reason' to do half the things they do. To me it reeks of a disgruntled competitor or similar in the dog world trying to cause some drama...well they certainly have done that

    Debarking in itself is a very useful operation in many cases. It can mean the difference between life and death for serial barkers.
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    Yeh I had never heard of it before, but would take an operation over having my dog put down anyday!! Although I couldn't live without staffy talk ha ha. Just thankful my neighbours can't hear.

    Never thought about competition before, I bet it was.......sneaky people.

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    Oh no...........this is so sad

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    I don't blame the rspca for taking any "debarked" dog off any owner, IMO the practicing if debarking falls under the category of animal cruelty, it's a barbaric practice that has no place in modern society. I feel so sad for the debarked dogs, ffs aren't dogs allowed to be dogs & bark, well it is their way of talking & communicating.

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    Can someone please advise me as to what are the legally acceptable reasons for debarking a dog?

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    I am unsure but I can see both sides of the story because I read this & then it makes me think that de barking shouldn't be allowed. But then I think if it is between life or death then debarking would be better than death.

    organization opposes convenience devocalization. PETA argues: "Debarking, or devocalization, is an invasive surgical procedure that involves removing a large amount of laryngeal tissue. It involves a great deal of pain post-operatively. Because this procedure is superfluous and inherently cruel, many veterinarians condemn and refuse to perform it." PETA continues: "[B]arking is a dog's means of communicating many feelings—fear, frustration, pain, boredom, or even happiness. This cruel procedure strips dogs of their natural ability to vocalize and communicate. Depriving them of their primary means of expression is unjustifiably cruel."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Floyd View Post
    I don't blame the rspca for taking any "debarked" dog off any owner, IMO the practicing if debarking falls under the category of animal cruelty, it's a barbaric practice that has no place in modern society. I feel so sad for the debarked dogs, ffs aren't dogs allowed to be dogs & bark, well it is their way of talking & communicating.
    Would you rather a dog be PTS for continued nuisance barking ?
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    There's lots of unanswered questions about this one.

    Firstly, how the hell did it get enacted into Victorian State Law that a de-barked dog cannot be exhibited?? Since when has criminal law governed the administration of dog shows? The practice of de-barking is regulated by law as it should be, but the exhibition of surgically altered dogs is the realm of the ANKC and their State bodies.

    And secondly, how many dogs were on this breeder's property?? 13 seized - most of those ones de-barked. Maybe too many dogs to be involved in much training? Anyone have thoughts to share on this one?

    The breeder's website states how they have all varieties of parti colours, and all shades of single colours. Which seems a whole lot of breeding stock to me.

    Would more time for individuals and their training result in fewer regulated veterinary procedures being necessary?

    Discuss....

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    Personally, I don't have any sympathy for this woman. "Altering" a dog's vocal cords so that one of its most natural behaviors is hindered because you're too lazy to train your dog or some other pathetic excuse is akin to torture to me and should be illegal. I agree that the whole not being able to exhibit debarked dogs even though it's legal to do it thing is stupid. In my opinion, it shouldn't be legal to debark your dog in the first place. If you aren't able to deal with a dog's most basic of behaviors, don't get a dog.
    Last edited by Liza; 12-13-2009 at 12:40 AM.

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