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Thread: Well Would You Look at This :) Now Leave the Pit Bulls Alone!

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    Default Well Would You Look at This :) Now Leave the Pit Bulls Alone!

    The American Temperament Test Sociation put a certain number of all 155 dog breeds through a number of tests that includes their reaction towards strangers, auditory stimulus, visual stimulus, tactile stimulus and self protection/aggressive behaviour.
    For a more detailed description of the test, go here: ATTS - American Temperament Test Society, Inc. - TT Test Description

    But now! For the good part!!
    Here are the most interesting stats.
    85.3% of the Pit Bulls passed the temperament test.
    83.7% of the German Shepherds passed.
    71.1% of Chihuahuas passed.
    81.9% of Dalmations passed.
    70.2% of Daschunds passed.
    83.1% of Jack Russells passed.
    84.6% of Golden Retrievers passed.
    90.9% of Dogo Argentinos passed(one of the dogs under the BSL)
    83.3% of Kelpies passed.
    79.2% of Great Danes passed.
    For all breeds go here: ATTS - American Temperament Test Society, Inc. - ATTS Breed Statistics - page 1

    Its really, really, interesting and easy to read. I encourage you all to have a look at your breed/s!
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    Interesting, isn't it Myf.

    It's all in the owner...well, a huge degree is, anyway, IMO.

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    It sure is interesting.
    Did you have a look at the Newfoundland?
    Im about too.
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    87.2% for the Newfie!
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    Staffordshire Bull Terrier...88%

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    definetly has a lot to do with the owner, i have always said that, any breed can have a vicious streak. Husky 86% not bad, mine is just naughty ha ha.

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    Not interesting at all - what is the breakdown of the dogs? 90% mean 4 out of 5 dogs in a 5 dog sample of that breed. A certain number? WHAT number?

    People use stuff like this to justify owning breeds - but frankly it makes them look as if they are clutching at straws.

    For example - the Belgian Lakenois scored 100% - that's dandy - except there were only 6 dogs tested!!

    11 Dogo's were tested - how is that in any way indicative of a breed as a whole? Where they all from different breeding lines?

    JRT's scored 100% too - anyone that has owned or known the breed knows this is rot!

    2929 GSDs were tested

    Google says there are around half a million REGISTERED GSDs in the USA

    0.0058% of the registered population - and god knows what if we add the BYBs

    How did they get their samples? Did they go to people all over the place? or did they concentrate their search locally? Did they ask ppl to volunteer, or did they seek them out?

    For research to be meaningful if has to do something more than throw statistics out at us!!

    There are 50 million households in the USA that own dogs - according to google - how accurately does this survey of roughly

    Even the test itself is severely flawed.

    It seems that ppl need to sign up to do the test - so wouldn't most prepare?

    If you are going to use statistics to back up a cause, make sure they are not this weak - as weakness leads to failure.

    It also doesn't say whether dogs failed on aggression or fear or otherwise...

    This survey is a waste of time - and probably taxpayer money

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    I'm with Occy.

    People volunteer to do these tests so it is not a random sample. Obviously if you owned a psycho Samoyed or whatever you wouldn't bother doing the test in the first place.

    There was a lot of discussion of these tests a few years back on a US Deerhound forum I am a member of. A couple of members took part in earlier tests and said never again.

    ATTS - American Temperament Test Society, Inc. - TT Test Description

    Read through what the tests consist of and think about how your own dog would react. I wouldn't want anyone shooting a pistol three times behind my one of my dogs.

    A far more practical test would be to walk your dog past a group of unknown dogs and see how it reacted. Then take it into a playground full of rowdy children and a room with people in wheelchairs, on walking frames etc. These are all situations a dog is likely to meet in every day life. Not many pet dogs are going to come across someone with a starters pistol creeping up behind them.

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    It would be interesting if dogs had to demonstrate that they could be non aggressive towards neutral adults, children and other dogs on neutral territory before they could be registered.

    SA councils mostly give a discount for dogs that have passed a certain level of "obedience" training. The criteria includes remaining calm and non-aggressive on lead when another dog walks by on lead. Easy peasy for Frosty.

    There were a whole bunch of back fires? in my suburb yesterday when Frosty and I were out for a walk. We both looked around to see where they came from but she remained calm. She's not bothered by fireworks or thunder either.

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    My main point was the Pit Bull statistic.

    Whatever just don't worry about it.
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