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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Just popping in before I go back to packing ( read-staring at boxes and room trying to work out what stays and goes) but Myf,my sweety , saying that even the most honest 'oops' is still irrisponsible is just a tad overdoing it I feel.

    It can happen and it does happen,to long time experienced breeders even.
    Hey,how was I to know a plate glass window wasn't good enough ?

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    But Renee it is!
    Its irresponsible to let your un-nuetered dog or cat 'wander' around, able to become pregant/get others pregnant.
    If your gonna have an un-spayed/un-nuetered dog or cat, you have to do everything you can to make sure that animal does not produce any accidents.
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    I'm going to have to agree with Myf- we've never had an accidental pregnancy because all my animals have been desexed at the recommended age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peta23 View Post
    Right... so bascilly everyone is a back yard breeder.... even if its a mistake.. No...not responsible breeders! They breed with a purpose...to improve their breed! Anyone who breeds crosses...unregistered dogs are definitely BYB no matter if it a woops litter or not. Woops litters wouldn't happen if owners were responsible and got the bitch desexed!
    Having a litter is expensive. BYB breed for the financial part of it. You think if pet shops were banned from selling pets...it would overflow pounds and shelters? If there is no financial gain for the BYB...I am sure he would think twice about breeding. Who in their right mind would breed a litter...raise them (costs money) and then just ship them off to the pound?

    If there were no quick financial gain for BYB breeders...then what reasons would they have to breed unregistered dogs. If they knew it wasn't that easy to just dump them at a pet shop and get money for them...I can only hope it would make a difference

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    Look, I think I'm seriously jaded.

    While humans keep producing kids willy-nilly everywhere because they can't control their hormones (or their booze or whatever) what hope in hell have we got of trying to fix the animal population problem?

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    Oops sorry Deerhound


    Ok so obviously this is a problem with many facets -
    suppliers: BYB's & puppy mills
    the middle-man: pet shops
    consumers: the people who buy the puppies

    Therefore, each of these needs to be addressed in order to solve the problem.

    Basically, supply = demand. If there is no demand for puppies in pet shops then the BYB's and puppy mills won't be able to offload their pups at shops anymore. But of course then we have the problem of them trying to get rid of them else where. But at least the easy avenue of pet shops is cut off.

    Exactly how is that stopping the sale of animals in pet shops will increase dumping/no. of dogs in pounds/shelters?

    Oh and Anne, poor poor little Cookie - how heartbreaking!!!
    Last edited by Loren; 12-03-2009 at 01:09 PM.

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    DA - I think some of your perspective though is different because Tassy is the most unregulated state in Australia in animal welfare concerns.

    I will go out on a limb here without having the research behind me and say that most other states will have a code of practice or an act that states a pet shop must vaccinate at the very least. Most will also now say they must be chipped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Look, I think I'm seriously jaded.

    While humans keep producing kids willy-nilly everywhere because they can't control their hormones (or their booze or whatever) what hope in hell have we got of trying to fix the animal population problem?
    We convinced Peta not to breed her ACD.
    Theres 6 puppies we know 100% won't end up in a pound.
    The forum will grow DA and even if we can convince 5 people a year, we have still made a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Look, I think I'm seriously jaded.

    While humans keep producing kids willy-nilly everywhere because they can't control their hormones (or their booze or whatever) what hope in hell have we got of trying to fix the animal population problem?


    Good one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    We convinced Peta not to breed her ACD.
    Theres 6 puppies we know 100% won't end up in a pound.
    The forum will grow DA and even if we can convince 5 people a year, we have still made a difference.
    Which im greatful for.. this site has opened up my eyes.. But i probly still will get a ACD bitch but she will get fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    Having a litter is expensive. BYB breed for the financial part of it. You think if pet shops were banned from selling pets...it would overflow pounds and shelters? If there is no financial gain for the BYB...I am sure he would think twice about breeding. Who in their right mind would breed a litter...raise them (costs money) and then just ship them off to the pound?

    If there were no quick financial gain for BYB breeders...then what reasons would they have to breed unregistered dogs. If they knew it wasn't that easy to just dump them at a pet shop and get money for them...I can only hope it would make a difference
    I think ppl may have misjudged peta's comments and how she meant them. i took her comments a different way to others, obviously.

    Coorect me if I'm wrong, Peta, but I thought she was simply referring solely to those BYB's who are so because they didn't get their animals desexed in time. Those ppl do not breed for any financial gain.

    BYB's DELIBERATELY breeding are mainly doing it for financial gain, yes. Take the pet shop out of the equation, sure, it could make a difference and MAY make it that bit harder for them.

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