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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    What I mean by chicken and the egg Cleas is that there are so many things to consider from all angles.

    I don't know the answer to this one. None of us do. We all have our opinions though, so I think debating it back and forth is an excellent way of getting those answers.

    My thoughts at this point:

    A few pet shops I've known will only sell puppies/kittens that have come from 'allegedly' accidents from an unintentional BYB. Now, one could say, how would they bloody well know. I guess those pet shops don't truly know - but they ask questions, form their own opinions from the parties with the puppies/kittens, and also put every owner into a registrar in their shops to keep track of it all. I admit, that is very responsible and probably not an example of the huge percentage of them! Lol.

    Bu let's say ALL pet shops were banned from selling puppies. Accidental BYB's would be left with several options:
    1) Keep the puppies themselves. *PMSL* As if!
    2) Place ads in newspapers, internet sites and on bulletin boards to try and find responsible, loving forever homes for them.
    3) Take the litter to the RSPCA or any other animal shelter; it's then their problem to find homes etc.
    4) Dump them in the bloody bush like the 3 litters (18 all up) my wonderful neighbours have found and are currently bottle-rearing.

    I guess the above are just issues to look at??? Will banning pet stores from selling puppies/kittens help relieve the problem, or not?

    Intersted to read further opinions from people!
    But they arn't going to keep breeding if they arn't making any money.
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    They'll make more money selling the puppies themselves instead of flogging them to a pet shop. A famous pf was quoted even stating that openly.
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    Right... so bascilly everyone is a back yard breeder.... even if its a mistake..

    Farmers mainly give them away to other farmers but i have hear of farmers taking them to pet shops...


    Think about it... if ppl arent educated about pet shop, willl still buy from them and also we still take to pet shop, if they are "mistake " BYB

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    Okay, went in today to town to buy some more food for my new cat. Checked the pet place out, and yep, 3 puppies from the same litter are sitting in a huge enclosure down the back. Big glass partitions blocking off the enclosure so ppl can see the puppies, but not touch or annoy.

    They are crossbreeds. Allegedly ****zu and Maltese cross. They have been wormed. They are $700. I'm standing there shaking my head, thinking WTF? What sort of idiot (my utmost apologies if I offend and there are any idiots here) would pay $700 to buy a crossbreed puppy with no innoculations or much else from a pet shop. Jeez, they may as well go to the pound or a damned good breeder for that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peta23 View Post
    Right... so bascilly everyone is a back yard breeder.... even if its a mistake..

    Farmers mainly give them away to other farmers but i have hear of farmers taking them to pet shops...


    Think about it... if ppl arent educated about pet shop, willl still buy from them and also we still take to pet shop, if they are "mistake " BYB
    Basicly everyones a back yard breeder? Huh? Are you saying pretty much everyone has accidently bred a dog or cat? Are you serious!!?
    Spaying and nuetering was 'invented' for a reason.
    Its irresponsible to accidently breed a dog or cat(Di that includes you!!)
    Ok you've heard of farmers that take their dogs, but thats possibly one or two. As a majority, they don't.
    Exactly, un-educated people will still buy from pet shops, but thats why we DO educate people, so they can pass on knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    But they arn't going to keep breeding if they arn't making any money.
    I don't know, Myf. Maybe you're right - those breeders don't want the hassle of raising the pups until they can go to new homes, and if they can't offload them at pet shops, then yeah, maybe some will give up and stop.

    But I think maybe others won't.
    They will find other avenues of offloading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Okay, went in today to town to buy some more food for my new cat. Checked the pet place out, and yep, 3 puppies from the same litter are sitting in a huge enclosure down the back. Big glass partitions blocking off the enclosure so ppl can see the puppies, but not touch or annoy.

    They are crossbreeds. Allegedly ****zu and Maltese cross. They have been wormed. They are $700. I'm standing there shaking my head, thinking WTF? What sort of idiot (my utmost apologies if I offend and there are any idiots here) would pay $700 to buy a crossbreed puppy with no innoculations or much else from a pet shop. Jeez, they may as well go to the pound or a damned good breeder for that price.
    Exactly! And its always the fluffy pups. You never see Dobes or GSD's do you.

    Roly was actually sold as a Jack Russell X Maltese for $180!!
    But since working at the vet, I have been told there is NO way he has Maltese in him.
    Its absolutely ridiculous, pet shops are biggies for hyping up designer breeds(cockapoos, multidoodles, morkies) They arn't a breed!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Basicly everyones a back yard breeder? Huh? Are you saying pretty much everyone has accidently bred a dog or cat? Are you serious!!?
    Spaying and nuetering was 'invented' for a reason.
    Its irresponsible to accidently breed a dog or cat(Di that includes you!!)
    Ok you've heard of farmers that take their dogs, but thats possibly one or two. As a majority, they don't.
    Exactly, un-educated people will still buy from pet shops, but thats why we DO educate people, so they can pass on knowledge.

    Well my understand about your comment.. it comes across that everyone that has mistake litter is a BYB.. but i get what you mean..

    Yes i have got my male cat nueted and my new kitten will spayed whens its old enough. i dont have to have kittens... thats why Charlie is going to be inside cat until it has been spayed because i dont want her to have kittens.

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    Just popping in before I go back to packing ( read-staring at boxes and room trying to work out what stays and goes) but Myf,my sweety , saying that even the most honest 'oops' is still irrisponsible is just a tad overdoing it I feel.

    It can happen and it does happen,to long time experienced breeders even.
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    Take our new cat. Microchipped, vaccinated, de-sexed, wormed and came with a half a box left of Advantage vials. Cost us $150 at the local RSPCA.

    Could have bought a cat for $10 at the local pet shop anywhere, or free from the local paper!!!

    This is the problem a lot of people have regarding pet shops IMO. Not all, but many of them do sell puppies and kittens cheaply, so people think "hey yeah, I want a dog/cat and I can afford that. Yeah yeah, I'll grab one!!!"

    They DO NOT stop to think about the further costs involved with microchipping, vaccinating, de-sexing etc. When they DO find out the costs, they go 'Oh ****! Didn't realise that" and they put it off till they can afford it, which often never happens - litters are born, and so on the cycle goes...

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