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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Renee and Peta thought that honest 'oops' litters were ok, thats all.
    Did they Myf?

    Must have missed those exact comments.

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    Out of interest, my definition of a puppy farmer is someone who breeds large quantities of dogs regardless of them being registered with a state association or not.

    "Large quantities'" is hard to determine but I would think that any more than 9 litters per year is a large quantity. I don't base it on the numbers of breeding adults because there are farmers who have only a few but breed them till their death and there are legitimate breeders who have many adult dogs but do not continously breed.
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    Hi Cleasanta,
    My optimisim is crushed though, when I think of the state that the animals we eat are kept in, and still, we continue to support that way of life for them by eating their meat...

    so very sad


    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    My grandfather is a sheepfarmer in NSW. He has 30 rams, 700 ewes and gets over 1000 lambs a year, do you expect them to get love and attention like a dog?
    What exactly is your problem?
    I've obviously offended you personally here, but thats your choice to take my general statement so personally. Perhaps I should have also acknowledged the farmers who do treat their animals well.
    When i made that statement, I was thinking of the many animals in Australia (i.e., pigs, chickens etc) that are confined to small cages and live in their own filth. As for the abbotoirs, I believe that the farmers choose to send their animals there, and therefore choose to allow the treatment they recieve there.

    I believe that on these forums we all have the right to our opinions, and part of that right is to be able to present those opinions without provocation and judgement from other forum users. I don't appreciate your comment "What exactly is your problem?" here. I was merely stating my opinion, as you have yours.

    Sorry to have gone off topic here everyone..

    It'll be a great start if pet shop animals sales can be banned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Did they Myf?

    Must have missed those exact comments.
    Well, that labelling them a BYB was over the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monkiea View Post
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    Hi Cleasanta,
    My optimisim is crushed though, when I think of the state that the animals we eat are kept in, and still, we continue to support that way of life for them by eating their meat...

    so very sad




    I've obviously offended you personally here, but thats your choice to take my general statement so personally. Perhaps I should have also acknowledged the farmers who do treat their animals well.
    When i made that statement, I was thinking of the many animals in Australia (i.e., pigs, chickens etc) that are confined to small cages and live in their own filth. As for the abbotoirs, I believe that the farmers choose to send their animals there, and therefore choose to allow the treatment they recieve there.

    I believe that on these forums we all have the right to our opinions, and part of that right is to be able to present those opinions without provocation and judgement from other forum users. I don't appreciate your comment "What exactly is your problem?" here. I was merely stating my opinion, as you have yours.

    Sorry to have gone off topic here everyone..

    It'll be a great start if pet shop animals sales can be banned!
    It wasn't meant to be offensive. How else would I have worded it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    My grandfather is a sheepfarmer in NSW. He has 30 rams, 700 ewes and gets over 1000 lambs a year, do you expect them to get love and attention like a dog?
    What exactly is your problem?
    No, just to be treated with respect.
    I don't eat ANY meat, grew up on a dairy farm, and it's in no way humane. Take away their calves every year, too old to breed don't bother repaying the old dears with retirement just off to the knackers.
    Beef farmers I don't know much about, but I think most of us have seen those awful smelly cattle trucks.
    Nor do I know much about sheep farming.
    I have seen first hand how caged chickens are treated, and that is a most cruel way for any one to make a living.
    I'm not saying we shouldn't eat meat just be aware of what it takes to produce it, from the paddock to the plate. How many of us have been to an abatoir and watched the whole process ? I have.
    Sorry I rambled a bit.
    I think pet shops should not sell any live animals, if you're serious about a pet go to a registered breeder or shelter. News papers and other advertising of byb should be banned as well.

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    I also think ppl have will always have a different perspective of what constitutes a BYB.

    For me, someone who has booked their bitch into the vet's to get her de-sexed, or has been told to wait until they are such and such an age, then has a bitch go into an early season etc, gets pregnant, and the owners are left with an UNWANTED litter on their hands. Yep, it happens - a lot.

    I personally don't relate to those ppl as BYB's. For me, BYB's conjures up an image of those who deliberately (once or repetitvely) breed their dogs without care of whether they are good for the breed, come up to standard, are not registered etc...

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    Good point D.A not much in life is clear cut there's always those fuzzy edges.

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    I totally agree with you Emma. I think the way animals are treated is absolutely awful. They are treated as if they are already just a piece of meat, not still a living breathing animal with feelings and emotions

    I will only buy free range eggs and bacon. I didn't eat ham (unless it's free range) for about a year but I'm sorry to say lately I've been having the odd piece

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkiea View Post
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    My optimisim is crushed though, when I think of the state that the animals we eat are kept in, and still, we continue to support that way of life for them by eating their meat...

    so very sad
    I think that is a whole other argument though. I eat meat and eating meat sustains me as a human being. It is a need.

    Buying a puppy or kitten is not a need, but a want. It is not to sustain life, but to provide an interest.

    I don't agree with the way many livestock are treated though, and again, just like the petshop vs breeder debate, I feel the effort should be put into ensuring the animals are kept appropriately and sold appropriately and not trying to convince people to become vegans. Wasted energies, wasted resources.
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    A realist just finishes the damn thing and refills it.

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