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    A four-year-boy was mauled to death by his family’s terrier at his grandmother’s home soon after midnight yesterday, despite warnings to police months earlier that the house was being used to breed dogs.

    Jean-Paul Massey died from multiple injuries at the house in Wavertree, Liverpool, after frantic efforts by his grandmother, Helen Foulkes, to wrest him from the animal’s jaws. Officers shot the dog on the spot.

    Merseyside Police have begun a full-scale investigation into the tragedy as it emerged that, in February, a concerned housing officer had telephoned the force to warn them that the address was being used to breed dogs. Chief Superintendent Steve Ashley said that the operator decided it was not a police matter, and did not pass on the housing officer’s concerns.

    Mr Ashley said: “We had one complaint in February this year. I have to say we did not respond to that call. The operator decided it was not a police matter. That is not Merseyside Police policy and, as a result, that will form a separate police investigation.”


    Mr Ashley said that vets were attempting to establish the exact breed of the dog to see whether it fell within the Dangerous Dogs Act. This was a complex procedure, he said. He described the animal as a family dog. Its ownership forms part of the investigation.

    The tragedy comes almost three years after Ellie Lawrenson, 5, was killed by the family’s pitbull in nearby St Helens. Her brother, Kiel Simpson, was jailed for eight weeks for owning a banned dog.

    Yesterday’s incident has reopened the debate about the shortcomings of the Dangerous Dogs Act. Merseyside Police said that the force has destroyed a total of 339 dogs deemed to be illegal under the Act since the death of Ellie.

    Jean-Paul was being looked after by Mrs Foulkes, along with his brother, Craig, while his mother, Angela Foulkes, was having a night out with her partner. The dog, described by neighbours as similar to a bull terrier, attacked late that evening.

    Dog handlers and armed police response officers answered an emergency call at the house at 12.24am yesterday. By then Mrs Foulkes had got the “agitated” dog into the front garden.

    While officers held the animal back, paramedics entered the house around the back. They were too late to save Jean-Paul, who died before reaching hospital. After a safety assessment, the dog was shot dead.

    Lawrence Crewe, 53, a neighbour, said: “We heard a terrible barking that went on for more than 20 minutes. It was a hellish noise and we wondered what could be going on. A few minutes later we heard two gunshots and the barking stopped. It is a tragedy. He was a lovely, happy little lad. We used to see him playing in the front garden or walking down the street with his grandmother.”

    Mrs Foulkes, who suffered bite marks to her leg and body, was treated and discharged later from the Royal Liverpool Hospital. She shares the property with the dead boy’s uncle, Christian, 21, said by locals to be a serving soldier. Neighbours have named him as the dog’s owner.

    Amos Ankara, a neighbour, said: “Christian seemed to like parading around the neighbourhood with the dog on a lead and it would snarl at everyone he walked past. It was an accident waiting to happen, keeping that ferocious dog in the house with a young boy. Even Christian’s friends would not go near it. Everyone in the street was wary of it.”

    Much of the terraced street remained sealed off by police throughout the day as forensic science experts worked at the scene.

    Residents complain that the ownership of fighting-style dogs has long been a problem in the area. The dogs are said to be a status symbol for their owners. Gillian Watson, 46, said: “There are lots of dangerous-type dogs around here. You always see young lads with pitbull dogs roaming around. I have a dog myself and when I take him for a walk sometimes it is quite terrifying because you think your dog is going to be attacked.”

    Another neighbour said residents had complained to the local housing association about dogs. “About 12 months ago one of them tore a pet cat to pieces in the middle of the street,” he said.

    The Dangerous Dogs Act became law in 1991 and bans four breeds.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...p;attr=2015164

    It appears it was a disaster waiting to happen.
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    Disaster waiting to happen yes. How very sad and tragic.

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    RIP Jean Paul.

    A disaster waiting to happen, no matter what breed of dog it was.

    The dangerous Dogs Act became law in 1991, and bans four breeds. Hmmm, interesting.
    Huamn deaths caused by dog attacks will never cease IMO until the Dangerous Dog Act incorporates humans, not dogs!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Human deaths caused by dog attacks will never cease IMO until the Dangerous Dog Act incorporates humans, not dogs!!!
    hear hear!

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    This story doesnt make sense to me.
    Possible 'Terrier' Breeds: Airdale, Pit Bull, Australian, Bedlington, Border, Bull, Cairn, Dandie Dinmont, Irish, Kerry Blue, Lakeland, Manchester, Schnauzer, Norfolk, Norwich, Parson Russell, Jack Russell, Scottish, Smooth Fox, Staffy, Welsh, Wire Fox and West Highland.
    How can they POSSIBLY say it was a terrier breed? All those above breeds are so different! And why do they bring up all the Pit Bull situations unless they want readers to assume it was a Pit Bull or a 'dangerous' dog?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    This story doesnt make sense to me.
    Possible 'Terrier' Breeds: Airdale, Pit Bull, Australian, Bedlington, Border, Bull, Cairn, Dandie Dinmont, Irish, Kerry Blue, Lakeland, Manchester, Schnauzer, Norfolk, Norwich, Parson Russell, Jack Russell, Scottish, Smooth Fox, Staffy, Welsh, Wire Fox and West Highland.
    How can they POSSIBLY say it was a terrier breed? All those above breeds are so different! And why do they bring up all the Pit Bull situations unless they want readers to assume it was a Pit Bull or a 'dangerous' dog?
    Yep, not too sure what the sentence referring to the other death a few years earlier has to do with this one?

    Actually, i found the written article to be full of holes, ie very assumptive, very vague and full of opinions, not neccessarily facts.
    I just put it down to journalism. *sigh*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Yep, not too sure what the sentence referring to the other death a few years earlier has to do with this one?

    Actually, i found the written article to be full of holes, ie very assumptive, very vague and full of opinions, not neccessarily facts.
    I just put it down to journalism. *sigh*
    Yeah me too....
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    Or should I have said ... sensationalism journalism. (Don't worry about the facts, just get everybody's attention.)

    Typical.

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    I admit when I saw the headline I thought "terrier" then "yorkie".

    But the article mentions "like a bull terrier", so at least they haven't made any assumptions one way or the other yet. It's only the guy that writes the headline that called it a "terrier".

    It would also be helpful to mention sooner that it is a UK report, they have different dog rules to us.

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    I couldn't get the top link to work. Here's a followup article

    Dog that killed Jean-Paul Massey was banned pit bull - Times Online

    It says that following the post mortem on the dog, that it was found to be an illegally bred pit bull which is a banned breed. And they are still investigating.

    If the place where the dog was, has been reported for illegal breeding of these dogs, I'm surprised the article doesn't mention that there were more dogs on site.

    They're also investigating how the report to police of dangerous dogs at that location was not followed up in February. I'm wondering how many other reports they've had that haven't been followed up, and presumably that there are a lot of reports and not many problems? Or maybe problems caused by humans are more pressing?

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    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...ffset=0&page=1

    This article about Dog fights on housing estates in the UK is a bit more balanced regards breeds, it looks to me more like "menacing dogs" or dogs being used instead of knives is the problem. Ie if the dog growls and snaps at a policeman, it should be required to wear a muzzle in public. Or confiscated. They're already talking about banning individuals from owning dogs, but imagine being a policeman trying to check that and enforce it when confronted by an angry dog, not just a knife. If someone pulls a knife on a cop they can shoot the knife wielder with a gun or a tasar but what if it's a dog not a knife.
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