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    We rehomed an approx 18mth old choc lab in January. He came with his breed lines on an official document [ sorry don't know the correct term] and was "rescued" by a lab breeder who told us that he had good lines. Very good hip and elbow scores.

    Not that we want to breed from as we had him desexed.

    A number of people in our area who have labs have commented on his confirmation and asked " What bred of dog is he ?" When we state the obvious ie a choc lab they seem incredulous. He has a relatively deep chest with a body line that rises in an "athletic" line to his back legs. His general confirmation is strong, tight waisted without any excess fat. He now weighs 34kg.

    I read on Wikipedia that there's two general lines in the lab breed. A "show line" ie heavier set and a "field line" ie more athletic. Is this correct ?

    Thanks

    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    We rehomed an approx 18mth old choc lab in January. He came with his breed lines on an official document [ sorry don't know the correct term] and was "rescued" by a lab breeder who told us that he had good lines. Very good hip and elbow scores.

    Not that we want to breed from as we had him desexed.

    A number of people in our area who have labs have commented on his confirmation and asked " What bred of dog is he ?" When we state the obvious ie a choc lab they seem incredulous. He has a relatively deep chest with a body line that rises in an "athletic" line to his back legs. His general confirmation is strong, tight waisted without any excess fat. He now weighs 34kg.

    I read on Wikipedia that there's two general lines in the lab breed. A "show line" ie heavier set and a "field line" ie more athletic. Is this correct ?

    Thanks

    Andy

    Can I ask...is he a "Lacote" labrador?

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    He looks like the average chocolate lab that came into the kennels to me. Having shown a Gordon Setter I would see the labs in the gun dog ring.

    Most working lines in comparison to bench or show lines differ in a couple of key areas.

    Most workers and I say most, not all, generally are lighter boned and taller, if a coated breed the coat is not as profuse, they have to be fit and healthy but it's not a requirement that they be perfectly in tune with the standard other than characteristics/drive.

    However, even if your dog comes with good bloodlines or from champion parents etc does not necessarily mean he could become a show champion as well. The day I breed a litter where the entire litter is show quality is the day I will jump up and down with joy. Generally only one or two from each litter tick all the boxes of the breeds standard.

    Enjoy your lab, keep him fit and slim. If there is indeed a "working" line of lab and his breeder has introduced this into his bloodlines then that's great, you could explore this side of his characteristics at your local obedience club where they could help you to participate in gun dog working trials and the like. If that's not your cup of tea then just enjoy that you got yourself a good healthy lab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    Can I ask...is he a "Lacote" labrador?
    I just found his Registration / Pedigree which shows he comes from a kennel called "Pine Ridge".

    We got Gus purely as a companion. We've had 2 Ridgebacks over 20 years and felt like a change to a medium sized dog. We thought that a lab would be easier to train. That may have been the case if he'd been a pup, but in his first 18mths with his original owners he hadn't been walked or given basic command training.

    Needless to say he's been a fair amount of work and has worn us out each day especially on the lead. When we first got him he'd virtually pull us along. Amazingly strong ! But we've had hours of enjoyment with him. Compared to Ridgebacks I feel he gives much more back with his lab personality.

    Thanks for the advice.

    Andy

    Last edited by Andy; 11-25-2009 at 02:38 PM. Reason: Add photo

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    Nice Labrador, and he's definately a Lab!

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    He looks like a lab to me!

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    Can I just ask about the Rescue Group who rescued him?
    And I think you mean they rehomed him with you ?

    I'd just like to know if they contacted the breeder at all.

    He's a lovely boy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Can I just ask about the Rescue Group who rescued him?
    And I think you mean they rehomed him with you ?

    I'd just like to know if they contacted the breeder at all.

    He's a lovely boy
    Gus wasn't actually in the care of any official rescue group. The breeder that had him didn't breed him. I'm not sure if they contacted the breeder.

    Would that be a common practice amongst breeders ?

    We weren't filled in too much with the details of how he came to be with the lab breeder we got him from. The basic drift was that he was bought by a couple that had a split up and the woman couldn't keep him as she moved into a unit. She was the one who gave him over to the breeder.

    Apparently when the breeder got him, he had ear mites in both ears and his coat was in very poor condition. He also most probably been whacked a lot.

    They took him to the vet etc and got his coat back to a better condition. Then they posted him with Dogz Online. We contacted them and had sort of a phone interview about what we knew about dogs and the conditions he'd be kept under. They told us that Gus was very boisterous and had a hard start in life. We were told that they were making a "short list" of interested people and they'd be in contact.

    They contacted us after a week or so and asked if we still interested. When we picked him up they had us sign an 'agreement' stating that we were aware that he had " endured a difficult life in the past several months" and that we agreed to take responsibility of him.

    He's now living the life of Riley.

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    In my unprofessional opinion from the second photo, he seems to have a big head compared to the rest of him (eg hips), but that's not unusual.

    I see labradors at our dog club and local ovals in all shapes and sizes including a few deformed ones. There's one I call the "wobbly lab" because she's partly blind and wobbles when she moves (due to some other problem she was born with) and she's very very shy/insecure. She will play with Frosty but the minute any dog barks at her, she runs back to her car to go home. And I've met one black one with very short legs, an accidental dwarf lab. I think both dogs were desexed.

    I've met some huge extremely powerful labs with big heads that I think of as cannon balls, and been told they are from the "American Labardors", ie the breed standard they are trying for over there, is different to here or UK. And I've met some slim athletic ones, though their heads tend to be narrower, more in proportion with the rest of them. And I've met some overall smallish ones. And some extremely fat ones. And I've heard of a line of Labs that won't work for food. SHOCK!

    If he's still pulling, you might want to investigate getting a front attach harness for him. But even though he's older, as long as he likes food, he should be really easy to train.
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    Hi all,

    My family has a choc lab (I'll post a pic) and he looks fairly similar. I'd say yours is a definite choc lab! Even from within the same litter you can get different sizes and shapes. Our choc boy has a finer head than some of the puppies in his litter had. Also, I'm pretty sure it's the other way around - American labs are more lanky and taller and the English ones are more stocky with bigger heads.

    Some info here - Labrador Retriever Information and Pictures, Labs

    Beautiful dogs regardless!!

    Lauren

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