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    yep it is Cate,this is more of a Trolls style,a really,really bad one at that

    But as Aussie said,we've had sooooo many spammers through here lately as well,shits me to tears.
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    Maybe troll, maybe not. Many people do have intentional litters though and believe they are doing nothing wrong. Do agree though that some people do enjoy a windup. Lack of a life.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    And again - a troll would be?..........? (Sorry not "up" on internet lingo.)

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    Well first of all that's just stuuuupid! Is it supposed to be funny? Second of all thanks to choppa and pugger for explanations to the unsavy internet user!

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    Default replying . . . .

    To start with this is not Spam or someone trying to get a kick out of making people angry.

    Secondly thank you to the people who actually replied to my original question. I am highly appreciative.

    Lastly the reason why I asked people to not judge me and post nasty comments was because I never actually stated that I 'wanted to breed' with her because I don't! And before everyone says 'well obviously you do otherwise this wouldn't be her second litter', when I brought her she was pregnant and the vet advised me not to get her spayed until her body had recovered from the labor (it wasn't easy on her). Obviously keeping her away from males etc. However whilst at work my neighbor's dog jumped the (6ft) fence! I was totally unaware of this until recently I noticed her behaving strangely and her teats were enlarged. I took her to the vet and sure enough . . . . too late to abort!

    I do not want to force the buyer to keep in touch however I would much prefer if circumstances arose to have the pup(s) returned to me rather than end up in a pound somewhere.

    I sincerely apologise for making people angry - I will make sure to be more accurate when describing my situation next time.

    BTW I have been to pounds etc and this is exactly why I don't wish for these pups to end up there.

    Thanks for the minimal advice that I did receive though

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeTheDeedNotTheBreed View Post
    To start with this is not Spam or someone trying to get a kick out of making people angry.

    Secondly thank you to the people who actually replied to my original question. I am highly appreciative.

    Lastly the reason why I asked people to not judge me and post nasty comments was because I never actually stated that I 'wanted to breed' with her because I don't! And before everyone says 'well obviously you do otherwise this wouldn't be her second litter', when I brought her she was pregnant and the vet advised me not to get her spayed until her body had recovered from the labor (it wasn't easy on her). Obviously keeping her away from males etc. However whilst at work my neighbor's dog jumped the (6ft) fence! I was totally unaware of this until recently I noticed her behaving strangely and her teats were enlarged. I took her to the vet and sure enough . . . . too late to abort!

    I do not want to force the buyer to keep in touch however I would much prefer if circumstances arose to have the pup(s) returned to me rather than end up in a pound somewhere.

    I sincerely apologise for making people angry - I will make sure to be more accurate when describing my situation next time.

    BTW I have been to pounds etc and this is exactly why I don't wish for these pups to end up there.

    Thanks for the minimal advice that I did receive though


    If this is indeed sincere,then I apologise.
    Though on the same token I do hope you are able to understand our first doubts

    You're story is scarily coincident ( another reason my suspicions were raised ) to a situation I am very familiar with.

    Can I ask why would you want to take one of your pups back if it was happily still settled in its own new home anyway?

    And the bolded part of your post is something I can understand 10 fold. What I can say is always get it in writing,even when its someone you think you can trust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeTheDeedNotTheBreed View Post
    Hello All,
    I have a female Am Staff X whom has had one previous litter. She is pregnant again! I am after advice from people on how to 'make' the buyers keep in touch with me. When I sold the last litter I asked for the buyers phone number and also gave them mine. Out of 5 pups I am still in close contact with 4. However one buyer never kept in contact with me and even changed their phone number!
    Is there any way that I can GUARANTEE that they are being looked after etc? Please do not say DON'T BREED!! as I am a responsible pet owner I keep in close contact with my vet and am very knowledgeable on the subject of pregnancy in dogs.

    ANY ADVICE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED! Thanks

    Also I would like to add (for all those that insist on posting nasty replies) that I make sure that I also educate the interested buyer of the pups as I despise people who buy puppies because they are 'so cute' yet have no idea of the responsibility involved etc. I detest people that take their pets to pounds etc. If you have the time to look for and buy a pet then you also have the time to find it an acceptable home if for whatever reason you can no longer have the pet!
    Out of 5 pups I am still in close contact with 4. However one buyer never kept in contact with me and even changed their phone number!
    You know 4 out of 5 is pretty good! I dont think there is any way to guarantee they will be looked after well, you could only hope they will be.
    you could go the way of a sale contract setting out the sale conditions but its still not a guarentee.

    I dont think there is anyway to make someone keep in contact, but just offer the contact and hopefully they will remain in your life.

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    OP, my apologies also if you are indeed genuine about the facts.

    Your original post would have certainly been taken differently by many here if more detail had been inserted to we could get a full picture of the situation etc, as unfortunately they are a dime a dozen (irrisponsible breeders who don't give a rat's bum)

    Following the further facts you have given us, I can only say that Beau's advice is very sound.
    Offer the contact in good faith with all your details. In conversation with the puppies new owners make it clear how you feel about it!
    I certainly would not be asking they sign a contract/declaration stating this in writing unless you are sure if buyers refuse you can find loving suitable homes for all puppies.

    All the best, and once again my apologies.

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    As a registered breeder I'm going to throw in my thoughts on the matter. Firstly you need to calendar date her current season/litter and then schedule in her de-sexing at least 8 weeks prior to her next season. Otherwise the surgery is more involved and thus more expensive and risky.

    I give owners of new puppies a puppy pack to get them started. I ask where they live so that I can locate their nearest puppy pre-school and obedience club, details on crate training, toilet training etc etc. I give the them "low down" on dog responsibility, fencing, feeding etc. I also enquire if they rent. (I apologise up-front if I upset any renters who are responsible dog owners on the forum).

    Now comes the hard part try not to lecture the puppies potential new owner to the point where you scare them off from making contact with you or make them feel too embarrassed to return the pup to you should their circumstances change.

    I always get name and telephone number, email, (you need these anyway for microchip details, I need them as pet puppies are put in Limited Reg.) and I send an Xmas card, 90% of the time I get one back. and I always state that "I understand that circumstances can change and if for any reason you can no longer keep your dog, no matter what it's age, please contact me and I will take your puppy back" & refund your purchase price. I have taken one adult dog back. Let them know that they can email any queries and send photo's).

    Now as a registered breeder I always say that I like to keep yearly contact with my puppy owners so that I can track how the mating went, how it's health and looks progressed so that I can decide if I would do the same mating again. This makes new owners feel very special.

    I have also turned away potential owners because of low fencing, too many young children for mum to cope with etc. That's my personal choice. Yes I also still can have puppies at 16 wks of age and things are getting really expensive then, but I can live with myself.

    I hope some of these ideas help. But in the long run you can't force them too.

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    Hi, I think the only thing you can do is do a "puppy pack" which has all your contact details such as address, email and phone number/s. Get them to fill out a form at the initial meet and greet that has all the particulars and other things like - what are you looking for in a pup and what sort of ongoing service would you like to see happen from me with this pup. Then is not so confrontational but you also have their details. You could also ask for their email address as you would like to be able to send some photo's as then it comes across as you doing it for them. As I do fostering when I meet the adoptive parents I do this so that I get all their details and they have all of mine, I also let them know that I would love to have updates and love to see their new pup growing through photo's on the odd occasion if that is alright by them. However as stated above you have had a pretty good track with people keeping in touch as there is only so much you can do. Make sure they are desexed before going to their new home and make sure you hand over your vets details because even if they don't live anywhere near you they might use that as a avenue to keep in touch. Good luck and I hope it all turns out well for you and Mum and the pups.

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