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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Does this look fiesty or what!?
    I got this c**p as a present for my past dog! Never used it of course.
    I've also seen two dogs getting into a fight and one of them had that collar with spikes turned outside. I cannot describe you the mess it made, it pierced one of those dogs muzzle through its mouth because they were probably grabbing one another allover the place. Then they couldn't separate and it caused even more aggression, fear... wah! I was 14 when i saw this and i thought I was gonna die because I felt so bloody helpless. It's originally designed for flock guarding dogs that often get into fights with wolves/bear which I sort of understand, but using this thing as a training method ... horror!

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    Im sure it does and can work, but there are better resources and tools that serve the same purpose in a more 'humane' way.
    I don't like choker chains either.
    Education not Legislation

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    The pinch collar is kinder and less painful than the choker. Consider that Austria g
    has banned choker chains. Not that I use either in my dogs

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    Alpha rolls were popularised by the monks of new skete. Even the monks no longer use the technique

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    Alpha roll

    I think my dog thinks the move is a variation of the "kill the antelope" neck hold she uses in play, often on dogs much bigger than she is. So the couple of times I tried it, she thought it was part of the game and it did nothing to settle or control her. It didn't freak her out either, fortunately.

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    Ceaser Milan is known as the 'Dog Whisper' He can rehabilitate all sorts of dogs, I get his newsletters in my email and he has a TV show. You can also go to his website and look at photos or read up on different things to do with dogs, He is very good with dog problems and you can ask questions. I hope that tells you what you wanted to know. Regards Cheryl.

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    I like Cesar.

    I dont agree with all of his techniques, but I think he is a bit of a cutey - even though his teeth are excessively white. He talks plenty to the owners abotu where they are going wrong I think. I think some of his advice is great, others not so much.

    But you take what will benefit oyu and leave the rest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Oh that's sad, Aussiemyf.

    That is cruelty IMO, and has no place in our world, or our pet's world.
    Until you have used either, you can not judge what is useful and what is harmful to the dog. I own a e-collar. It is rarely used but I understand how it works and the technology behind it. People simply see the work "electric collar" and "shock collar" and automatically freak out. It's actually called a "remote training collar" and can very effective in training. I have used it on myself to see how it feels. Has anyone else that has made the negative assumptions done this?

    It is proven that to this day, STILL THE ONLY TECHNOLOGY that can eliminate sheep killing and snake deaths in dogs is the E-collar. To this day no other form of training works. If/when they find another proven method then, YAY, but until then it has it's place in dog training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Floyd View Post
    It sure does look freaken feisty, bloody cruel & barbaric

    IMO those things should be used around the necks of any owner or dog trainer that uses them on dogs.

    Give them a taste of their own cruel medicine & see if they like it.
    Once again, until those commenting on this have tried them and used them on a dog (and themselves) and understand how to use them properly, they should not comment saying they are cruel or barbaric. The image posted can no longer be seen, so I don't know which picture of a prong collar it was, however all prong collars have rounded prongs so they can not stab or injure the dog. They have the long prongs, which allow it to reach the neck, without catching the hair in links etc (like some correction chains can do). It is designed to act as the teeth of another dog around it's neck. This is how they punish each other in the wild. It allows the dog to feel something more familiar. Mothers do this to their pups to settle fights, etc.

    I'm not saying everyone should go out and buy a prong collar, I'm saying don't judge based on it's look.

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    Hi all

    There is not much point addressing your replies to the opening poster (OP) because she has long gone and is unlikely to read them.

    I wouldn't mind seeing the data that backs up your claim, Pawfectionist. Though I agree that the e-collar can have its place, used correctly. Unfortunately - you can't compete in ANKC affiliated dog sports and use one in training. But it might be a better way for farmers to train dogs than their usual punishment methods.

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