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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdalena View Post
    I agree with you H
    and I've decided to avoid the guy. I know roughly the time he goes there. Misi is also great with dogs and such fun to watch but the minute she does the 'kill an antelope neck hold' people think she's out of control. Lola is now pretty good too, more into running with dogs than playing though.

    If those twits are dog people, you'd think they'd know a bit more about dog behaviour, wouldn't you? People...pfft. God that must irritate you both.

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    Thanks DA
    I know, Everyday I say 'What is wrong with people'?

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    I talked to council and they say I need to report any dog attack when it happens and I need to get the dog id. Sigh. Getting dog id a bit hard. But if there is our usual group (I was a bit late arriving), one of them is a policeman and I will enlist his help - one of us holds our dogs and the other gets the number. That way I have it if I need. Also I think the NPH arrives in a car, so I could get the plate off that.

    But like I said before - they probably won't show up for another month and then I expect the dog will be totally crazy. If I'm lucky it will suicide in the traffic on the nearest main road. If we're not lucky it will kill some poor unfortunate dog.

    Yes people who don't understand dog behaviour drive me nuts. People who think they understand dog behaviour but clearly don't (no butt sniffing WTF?) drive me more nuts. However I try not to get too worked up about it. I'm nuts enough as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    I talked to council and they say I need to report any dog attack when it happens and I need to get the dog id. Sigh. Getting dog id a bit hard. But if there is our usual group (I was a bit late arriving), one of them is a policeman and I will enlist his help - one of us holds our dogs and the other gets the number. That way I have it if I need. Also I think the NPH arrives in a car, so I could get the plate off that.

    But like I said before - they probably won't show up for another month and then I expect the dog will be totally crazy. If I'm lucky it will suicide in the traffic on the nearest main road. If we're not lucky it will kill some poor unfortunate dog.

    Yes people who don't understand dog behaviour drive me nuts. People who think they understand dog behaviour but clearly don't (no butt sniffing WTF?) drive me more nuts. However I try not to get too worked up about it. I'm nuts enough as it is.
    hyacinth, you are a character!

    Hope you get the ID next time you come across that moron. I'm sure others that go there will help you too.

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    Gosh Guys I agree with everything you are saying it's like you came and visited our local off leash park! I especially like the owners who have a drinking session whilst they are supposed to be watching their own dogs.
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    For the drinkers in qld - you could call crime stoppers or police attendance...

    I think I'd just write the dog park off - as a place where dogs that are not well controlled live.

    It would be interesting to see a couple of rangers visit any of them and ask each owner to call their dog to test "effective control". I'd fail. Well I'd get her back to me but not quite on lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskymum View Post
    Gosh Guys I agree with everything you are saying it's like you came and visited our local off leash park! I especially like the owners who have a drinking session whilst they are supposed to be watching their own dogs.
    OMG!
    Yeah me too! There's always someone drinking...

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    I've been talking to a few bureaucrats.

    Hows this for a bit of gobbledygook - no normal dog owner could possibly understand. Note - it's SA law only though there might be similar crap interstate.

    The Dog and Cat Management Act 1995, identifies a dog to be wandering at large under the following conditions:

    7—Dog wandering at large

    (1) For the purposes of this Act, a dog will be taken to be wandering at large

    while—

    (a) the dog is in a public place (other than a park) or a private place without the consent of the occupier, and no person is exercising effective control of the dog by means of physical restraint;


    This is the "translation"

    The reference to physical restraint refers to a lead of no more than 2 metres in length. Therefore a dog off lead outside of an off leash park or your backyard is considered to be wandering at large and the owner liable to expiation is the dog is not on a lead.

    This is my attempt at a translation of the translation:
    Dog must be on a lead of 2m or less at all times unless on private property where the owner consents (ie your own backyard), or a specifically sign posted "off leash" place.

    I talked to one of the people who was there when the NPH showed up. She said one of the other dog owners asked the NPH owner to take his dog elsewhere - and suggested another place where a Great Dane is known to show up (How that will help I don't know), but essentially the NPH went bonkers and beat up all the other dogs - in a playful over the top puppy kind of way - but given its build - totally unacceptable. She didn't think it had a rego tag. And the guy with his baby in a front sling, and the dog, all showed up on a bicycle. And as I have previously found out, leading a dog from a bike (vehicle) is illegal. And letting your dog harrass other people or dogs is also illegal.

    So next time I see that dog at our park - I'm phoning the rangers.
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    Hi Hyacinth

    This is Ipswich City Councils regulations on off leash parks. As far as I am aware this is Australia wide but I can't confirm it.

    Leash Free Areas:
    Council currently has leash free areas located at:
    • Battye Park- Pine Mountain Road, Brassall
    • Wulkuraka Park, Toongarra Road Wulkuraka
    • David W Coultas Park, South Station Road Raceview
    • Rex Hawkes Park, Russell Drive Redbank Plains
    • Banjo Paterson Park - Duncan Street, Collingwood Park
    • Noel Street reserve - Noel Street, Dinmore
    • Cribb Park - Pelican Street, North Ipswich (off Bank St)
    • Jack Barkley Park - Gledson Street, North Booval

    Dogs must be on a leash until they are inside the boundary of the leash free area.
    When in the leash free area, the dog must still be under verbal control of the owner. This means that the dog will respond immediately to the owner's command. The owner should be able to stop the dog from rushing up to people and other dogs and must hold the leash in case it is required for control.
    Obedience training can help you and your dog achieve this level of control.
    If you know your dog may be aggressive towards other dogs and/or people, be responsible and do not take your dog into a leash free area when in use.

    Dog droppings:
    Council are happy for you to take your dog out in public for exercise, however, other City residents should not have to deal with your dog's droppings on their front lawns, footpaths and in other public areas.
    Council's local law states that you must dispose of your dog's droppings, and you must carry with you a scoop and/or some plastic bags to ensure droppings are collected. Specific devices for this purpose can be purchased from pet shops.

    This is Leash control also fromthe Ipswich City Council. It mirrors what you are saying.

    Responsible dog owners ensure that their dogs are exercised well. This can range from playing ball in the backyard, to walking or running in public. When in public it's very important to keep your dog under control. This includes when you're exercising your dog in a leash free area.
    Leash Control:
    • When taking your dog for a walk anywhere in public your dog must be on a leash.
    • The leash should be in good condition, under two (2) metres in length and of a suitable strength.
    • The leash must be securely held by a responsible person.
    • When on the leash you should be able to stop your dog from pulling the leash out of your hands and from rushing up to other people and dogs.
    • Obedience training can help you and your dog achieve this level of control.
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    Dont get me started!! I get dogs approaching Euro all the time & when I say "can you call your dog they usually smile & wave I will post a pic soon with Euro muzzeled, not fair!!

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