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    Another dog forum meet up!
    Education not Legislation

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    I hope so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Ooh, I'm in Dev, I'm in Dev...

    Hey Zed...a visitor!
    'Hey Zed...a visitor!' I'm scared now

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    Hi DA

    You might want to read this before you pick the next trainer/expert.

    Buyer Beware! On Abusers in "Expert's" Clothing | Dog Star Daily

    Home › Blogs › Casey Lomonaco's blog >
    Buyer Beware! On Abusers in "Expert's" Clothing

    I don't know how you chose the idiot you describe in here, but may I suggest a few different ways of finding a good dog trainer.

    1. Talk to the people at your local dog obedience club - whether you're a member or not the committee should have some people they recommend if there are problems outside their scope to deal with.

    2. Talk to a few local vets. They should be able to recommend people they send their customers to, especially the customers that have aggressive dogs (towards vets).

    3. Ask around at your local dog walking spaces - or places lots of dog owners gather... the best way to find someone good is by word of mouth.

    4. Ask / find the local association of dog trainers or behaviourists - and get them to recommend someone. Get them to say why they recommend someone, not just giving you the first three members in your area with no feedback on their training styles or skill levels.

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    Thanks Hyacinth, great advice.

    There is one who is supposed to be a true behavioural expert with dog aggression. She apparently travels around Tasmania to consult with clients in their own home environments. I am keeping her in mind, and will research her further if I have no success with any forms of advice given to me so far.

    Yes, if I need to end up going down that road (I'm hopeful I won't) then I think I should contact a few of her clients and see what their feedback is about her.

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    I like the breeders advice personally. Takes a while longer but works just as well as anything else. Cappy was the same - he would check to see who it was, and if it was a stranger he would carry on. I found putting him on a lead was also helpful and asking the strangers to completely ignore him.

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    What about a combination of a couple of the posts here. You say ex show dog! Crates become safe havens for show dogs. What would he be like if someone phones from outside the home and you put him in his crate, they knock on the door and after he calms down they can give him a reward? I like Woolworth Herb & Garlic snag boiled up, very smelly. Yes I know everyones going to go on about the garlic thing but its only a small amount.

    Place the crate at a distance that he is aware but not overly reactive, much like your bus stop situation.

    He may be less stressed in his crate. If he stress levels are lowered he can take in the training. Then bring him out on a lead.

    All members of the household knock/ring bell of door as they come and go, yourself included when he's not in his crate (provided he's OK with this).

    Have a sign posted out front (laminate if necessary) saying "Dog training in progress pls phone ....."

    Enlist the help of someone for training sessions otherwise its not consistent enough for you to reward improvements.

    I had a wonderful training schedule all typed out then the internet disconnected. So I hope this snippet of info can be of help if other suggestions don't work.

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    Occy and Mouseandchicken, I'm really interested in your comments.

    I have felt so uncomfortable with the crate idea, but yes, as a show-dog he was used to his crate all the time.
    It was his bed, his night-time place. He hasn't used it since coming as he just wants to be where we are, namely me. Actually, if he had his way he'd be sitting ON me! Lol.

    I wish someone could give me an explanation of exactly why it is a good idea.
    I've had so many people tell me that it would be the worst thing I could do as it would supposedly stress him ever further and seem like punishment, which could make him resent guests even more.

    Yet, it's what the breeder who has owned him all his life has advised to do. I'm frustrated at my own confusion!

    And yep, I've got to get some people to come around. The odd visitor here and then (very few and far between) isn't going to get me anywhere, I know.

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    I think there is a subtle difference between dragging an upset dog by the collar to the crate and locking it in, than commanding the dog to go to its crate under its own steam, and the door stays open.

    I can't find any of the links I liked but if you google dog crate training, there are loads of articles on why you do it and how you do it successfully.

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    Consider the crate as being the dogs den - a place that no one else goes to (aside from you) and a place where safety is assured - even aggro dogs want safety.

    A crate for a dog is like your bedroom for you -a haven.

    However, you could try having someone answering the door as you feed him for not reacting. You really need a trainer to work through this with you as there are many small steps

    Will the breeder come around and give you a hand?

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