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    Why though?
    This dog should have had more control.
    No argument from me. I am in in no way defending what the dog did and obviously this dog should have had more control.

    You shouldn't let your dog approach anyone without agreement anyway.
    In the ideal world I guess all dogs are perfectly behaved and under strict control. In the real world this is not and never will be the case. Obviously I don't mean let your aggressive dog off lead but I don't think there is anything wrong with a friendly dog going up to say hello to other people/ dogs on dog beaches. Therefore, I still think if you don't like dogs don't go to dog beaches. It seems like common sense to me. I'm sorry if that might mean traveling a little further but I have to travel to my dog beach. I don't know about other areas but around here there are far more no dog beaches than dog beaches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkay View Post
    No argument from me. I am in in no way defending what the dog did and obviously this dog should have had more control.



    In the ideal world I guess all dogs are perfectly behaved and under strict control. In the real world this is not and never will be the case. Obviously I don't mean let your aggressive dog off lead but I don't think there is anything wrong with a friendly dog going up to say hello to other people/ dogs on dog beaches. Therefore, I still think if you don't like dogs don't go to dog beaches. It seems like common sense to me. I'm sorry if that might mean traveling a little further but I have to travel to my dog beach. I don't know about other areas but around here there are far more no dog beaches than dog beaches.
    Thats why leads were made, they dont have to be perfectly behaved.
    In my opinion, I don't think you should let your dog approach anyone or dog unless you know its ok with the other party. When Im walking past other dogs or people, I'll put both dogs on a lead.
    I don't know the person, I don't know the dog. Just because your dog is friendly, doesnt mean the dog, or the owner/person for that matter will be.
    If they're dog is offlead and don't seem fussed, I'll leave my dogs off and I will allow them too approach.

    Oh, and we still don't know if this woman was running on a dogs beach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan1979 View Post
    we were engaged in play and Duke (my dog) had his ball in his mouth, as the lady ran between us Duke got intrigued and went in to have a sniff when he did this the lady screamed "get away" in a high pitched voice and kicked her leg out at him, not making contact but it was a clear kick out. This I think frightened Duke and he then bit the lady resulting in 5 stitches to the ladys leg.
    This is totally out of character for our dog, we are regulars at the off lead beach and have never seen any signs of aggression from him before, when we told our obedience instructor she was in total shock not understanding where this could of come from.
    Now, put yourself in dogs position and imagine you were curious about someone entering your space while you were doing something. You went to say hello, and check the newcomer out and suddenly you get a kick in a face. The kick misses you but your reaction is automatic defense and you automatically (very probably without intention) strike back and hit the person who scared you. That is exactly what happened with your dog. Your dog is not aggressive, it was just unpleasantly surprised, got frightened and reacted the way dogs react. A lot of dogs, not just yours.

    So, yes, you did the right thing coping insults and offering help and payment but as far as your dog goes, I wouldn't declare it as "dangerous". Then all large (and sometimes small) dogs are dangerous.

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    Sorry Fedra but I dont think a lot of dogs would react by biting a person good enough to require stitches.
    The dog was not kicked in the face at all .

    It is a moot point if he calls the dog dangerous or not,the law will call it a Dangerous Dog .

    As I said before , a person has every right to be jogging,walking,playing,doing aerobics,screaming or whatever!! along the beach .And should be able to do so without the worry of getting bitten by a large dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Sorry Fedra but I dont think a lot of dogs would react by biting a person good enough to require stitches.
    The dog was not kicked in the face at all .
    Some would, some wouldn't, just like some people would back away and I would for instance punch back. GSD for example is more likely to strike back then to get scared - it's in their nature, they're created to be fearless and have sudden (prompt) reactions. Same goes for rotties, many herding dogs, terriers, belgian shepherds etc... My point is that this was a normal dog reaction. One of them. And just as we people are all different with different reactions to different things, so are dogs. And I think I explained - he did not need to be kicked in the face, he was kicked at - that's enough to provoke such reaction in animal, for him it was a threat. You just don't do those sort of things.

    As I said before , a person has every right to be jogging,walking,playing,doing aerobics,screaming or whatever!! along the beach .And should be able to do so without the worry of getting bitten by a large dog.
    Yes they do, and so she did. She was jogging, and he was playing in off leash area. So they were all in right here. Except poor dog being curious and poor woman being hysterical. It's human world however and of course let's blame it all on dogs. They should be like robots or stuffed toys and have no rights/feelings/problems and right to react or express them whatsoever, otherwise they get pts.
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    Dont you think that is just a tad melodramatic
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Dont you think that is just a tad melodramatic
    not at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedra View Post
    Yes they do, and so she did. She was jogging, and he was playing in off leash area. So they were all in right here. Except poor dog being curious and poor woman being hysterical. It's human world however and of course let's blame it all on dogs. They should be like robots or stuffed toys and have no rights/feelings/problems and right to react or express them whatsoever, otherwise they get pts.
    Great point. I agree.. we live in a human centred world, a society where dogs are becoming less and less tolerated and human beings ALWAYS have to find someone ELSE to blame when things dont go the way they think is right!

    I feel sorry for all the people living this "perfect" life with the "perfect" dog and "perfect" children etc... what a boring life it must be!

    Alan.. i think anything has the potential to be dangerous.. but the term "dangerous" is different to everyone.. i mean look at poor old mate Steve Irwin who got bad press for taking his children in front of crocodiles.. i would think thats dangerous as i dont know crocodiles but for him... prob not! Just the same as i dont see my children being around my dogs as being dangerous.
    You are the best judge as to whether or not your dog is dangerous.. and from this story.. i dont believe he is. You sound like a very loving pet owner.. Good on you.. all the best.

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    I have to agree with Fedra. Good luck Alan, I sincerely hope it all works out for you. Must be a worrying time for you. Also a pat on your back for doing the right thing with the woman.
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    i think that yes we should have full confidence in our animals that they will not react nastily if they are off leash. dog people do not understand how non dog people can be so scared of our dogs.. but its a fact that some people are and we do not know their past experiences and we need to acknowledge the fact that we need to share the space we have with dog people and non dog people. no your dog is not dangerous but yes he was involved in an unfortunate incident which will lead him to be declared as one. i would not have him off leash again, because of 2 reasons 1. if a similar incident arises there could be horrible implications 2. the incident may have made him anxious and more likely to bite in defense again. good luck with it all though, it is a sad story

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