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    Hi Alan

    I too, can't offer any advice sorry. But you did all the right things, I really feel for you being in this situation.

    Umm just as a side note, if the lady has a problem with dogs coming up to her why did she go to a dog beach???? (I'm assuming she didn't have a dog as you haven't said so)

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    What state are you in? most places have well defined defences to declarations.
    Good luck with it.

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    Sadly Victoria have some of the toughest laws when it comes to officially declared dangerous dogs. Usually this means you have to build a dog enclosure. A back yard is not considered a safe containment area. Your dog will have to be on lead when off your property and in some cases it may have to be muzzled as well.

    The challenge is to make sure your dog is not declared dangerous. You are going to need legal advice. Talk to your trainer and see if he can recommend a law firm that deals with these sort of cases. I know there are some out there.

    Good luck.

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    I don't suppose it would help at all to put forward the case of 'normal' dog behaviour?

    A person running towards a dog can be perceived as a major threat in dog lingo.

    And the poster who asked 'why was the lady at a dog-beach if she reacts that way to dogs' is a damned good question!

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    Just because dogs are allowed on this beach does not mean its exclusively for the dogs.
    If a person wants to jog along their local beach then they should be able to do so without the fear of being bitten.
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    The beach I take my dogs too is a family beach. I am bring my dogs to their beach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Just because dogs are allowed on this beach does not mean its exclusively for the dogs.
    If a person wants to jog along their local beach then they should be able to do so without the fear of being bitten.
    I agree, but if a person is fearful of dogs (which it sounds like this women was) there are plenty of non doggie beaches to go to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkay View Post
    I agree, but if a person is fearful of dogs (which it sounds like this women was) there are plenty of non doggie beaches to go to.
    Why though?
    This dog should have had more control.

    You shouldn't let your dog approach anyone without agreement anyway.
    She shouldn't have to go to a beach which is possibly further away just because people cant put a lead on the dog for 30 seconds as they go past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Why though?
    This dog should have had more control.

    You shouldn't let your dog approach anyone without agreement anyway.
    She shouldn't have to go to a beach which is possibly further away just because people cant put a lead on the dog for 30 seconds as they go past.
    That's pretty much it in a nut shell Tkay
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    Someone buys a house across the road from the beach. They've lived and jogged there for years, and then the council makes it a "dog beach" with the requirement that dogs there be under effective control. That doesn't give dogs permission to bite people no matter what silly provoking things people might do. So someone should still be able to jog on their beach.

    And being a jogger they've probably had plenty of bad experiences with dogs that are not under control by their owners, so good reason to be fearful. And it's probably difficult for dog owners to educate people that are just running past and don't stop for a lecture on why you don't run between a dog and its owner or run at a dog or kick at a dog that is sniffing at you. .

    I'd have more sympathy for the dog if the dog had been on lead and muzzled and the woman had charged up to it and grabbed it by the head and put her hands in its mouth (and yes I've seen people do this and still not be bitten - though they thoroghly deserve it). In this case the owner has done everything they can to prevent dog from biting and the woman has assaulted the dog. Not being at the actual event - based on the description - there is a potential to suggest the woman tried to assault the dog based on her kicking at it - but I'd need a lawyer to unravel the details of when is and isn't and I suspect "self defence" might not be valid excuse for a dog.

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