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    Hi guys..

    I was wondering what your opinions on dog crates were..

    I've personally always seen them as being cruel, to leave a dog in a crate whilst you go to work etc, but I was at the vet today (getting food and what not) and she was asking how Chloes separation issues were going (not well but we'll get there!), when she mentioned perhaps i should look into getting her a crate..

    I must admit I dont know a lot of them, so my initial "cruel" thought is completely that, an initial thought with no research or actual knowledge, apart from seeing them around.. She (the vet) said she uses one for her Kelpie who has similar issues and it's calmed them down a lot..

    So are you for or against them? IF so why/why not

    Also for those who are FOR them, and have one;

    where do you keep it?

    How long does your dog spend in it?

    Im not yet convinced and at the moment, Im hoping to slowly get Chloe's anxiety calmed without one, but Uni starts up again in March and I am going to have to have some sort of back up plan for the 2 days im not at home and she can't come..

    TIA

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    Oooooh controversy!
    Get ready for it.

    I have never used one, and never plan to use one. But I know others here are firm believers in crates.
    I think leaving a dog in crate over night or during the day while your away (3 hours+) isnt fair.
    Then again, some use it as a kennel, a safe enclosed space area for the dog to stay. But to put a dog in and close the door for long periods of time, hmm, im not entirely convinced.
    I dont have a problem with others using it, and I wouldnt call it cruel, but it doesnt appeal to me right now, or my current dogs. Maybe in the future I'll feel the need to use one.
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    Oh no!!! i didn't want controversy.. I caused enough of that with my last post... *hides*

    Can i place a sub clause which states theres to be no arguing?? I just wanted to see who agreed and disagreed with my vet and why thats all..

    As i said I don't know much about them

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    Crates are probably more common than people actually know. I was born into a "dog show" background, we used them for transporting to & from shows plus sleeping the dogs inside. They were covered up by a blanket to block the light. It was probably a "no brainer" for our dogs as they were always used to being crated. Also it was good if the dogs needed some quiet time after a big show or play with the kids. A lot of dogs probably enjoy their quiet time away in a familair place that they dont have to share. To be honest I never knew any of our dogs that "refused" or "disliked" being crated.

    I dont know about leaving your girl crated all day though.....I dont see a problem with a few hours though.
    Regarding separation anxiety - what is actually happening here? Its a very difficult issue to handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Oooooh controversy!
    Get ready for it.

    I have never used one, and never plan to use one. But I know others here are firm believers in crates.
    I think leaving a dog in crate over night or during the day while your away (3 hours+) isnt fair.
    Then again, some use it as a kennel, a safe enclosed space area for the dog to stay. But to put a dog in and close the door for long periods of time, hmm, im not entirely convinced.
    I dont have a problem with others using it, and I wouldnt call it cruel, but it doesnt appeal to me right now, or my current dogs. Maybe in the future I'll feel the need to use one.
    Nicely put...I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Oooooh controversy!
    Get ready for it.

    I have never used one, and never plan to use one. But I know others here are firm believers in crates.
    I think leaving a dog in crate over night or during the day while your away (3 hours+) isnt fair.
    Then again, some use it as a kennel, a safe enclosed space area for the dog to stay. But to put a dog in and close the door for long periods of time, hmm, im not entirely convinced.
    I dont have a problem with others using it, and I wouldnt call it cruel, but it doesnt appeal to me right now, or my current dogs. Maybe in the future I'll feel the need to use one.
    My feelings too. My dogs have always had their time out if they want it by going down to our bedroom when they want to or wanting to go outside. I am not in a house with little or no backyard or a flat though.

    Other dogs have not wandered when being outside and we leave for a while. Pretty on the other hand tries to follow so she is on a chain near her kennel on the front veranda if we both are going somewhere.

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    Regarding separation anxiety - what is actually happening here? Its a very difficult issue to handle.
    nothing over the top im very lucky that way.. She makes this weird "yelping" noise (it's suspected shes been de-barked so it's hard to explain) when she can't be right next to me (which is manageable)

    but she also goes into destructo-mode and will get into anything she possible can... Thankfully it's just been my hose attachment and some pegs that she's gotten her teeth/paws into... I've given her 2 different types of Kong toys but she's more into the squeaky variety of toys so doesn't pay much attention (also not really motivated by food)

    Other then that she headbuts the glass door over and over again in an attempt to move it so she can get in.. (when im home she can spend her time either inside or out as the door is always open)

    Being x kelpie we (the foster career and myself) are wondering if she's going to start jumping the fence, she's yet to which is a good sign but we're still waiting...

    Currently i'm trying to find a toy of some sort i can hide or get her attention on for more then 4 mins.. and i leave the house for a little while (first 5 mins, then 10, currently up to 20mins) so she see's I am coming back..

    As i said it's far from over the top or unmanageable.. was just the vet offering a solution if the destruction gets too much..

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    I love the crate

    I certainly don't see it as cruel. When I go out shopping for example and I need to know my dog and my house is safe and in one piece for when I return , then the dog goes into the crate.

    When I have to keep one dog seperate for periods of time ( and I mean seperate) then one goes into the crate.Then we'll do a time about.

    Feeding out messy bloody bones is done in the crate instead of all over my carpet .

    The crate is placed either in the loungeroom with us or in the garage ( which is connected through a door to the house entrance and is always much cooler than upstairs.

    And my dogs looove the crate
    You only need to open the door and in they go and we've often found Lop stretched out snoozing in it down in the cool

    Perhaps us crate people could do 101 reasons to have a crate
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    While I am at home I don't use a crate ever, however my dogs sleep inside of a night. So when I go out to may parents house for the night I do use one. The only one that does use one is my 9 year old whippet as she howls if she is not allowed inside. She knows that when we are out there she is crated and as soon as I open the back door she goes straight to the crate, curls up and goes to sleep. Another thought though - my whippets jump my fences so I bought 12m x 12m pens that have a roof, they are allowed in the backyard when I am home but the minute I am about to leave they go in the pens (one each) and are happy to stay there. They are expensive but the peace of mind is worth it. When I leave I give my dogs frozen chicken drumsticks (this is the only time they get them), they therefore are linking me going to getting something good, unfortunately this has made them eager to see the back of me!!!

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    I love the idea of the pen cate, unfortunately my backyard could not house one.. We are planning on moving to a bigger house soon, but for the time being it;s just completely out of the question... (i actually thought when adopting her, that the size of our house would go against us in particular the backyard, but SAFE said because she was allowed indoors and walked so much it wouldn't be a problem)...

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