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    yeah internet hype lol.

    I could do the exact same list thing for Australia. compiling states and individual councils. In fact someone allready did an Australian list and put up a website called attackchi many years ago.
    Its not based on nothing, it's based on legislations.

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    Well if you just use that American dangerous dog reporting form, I'm sure every dog in every one of those breeds would be categorized aggressive or worse, just for being alive and a dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    yeah internet hype lol.

    I could do the exact same list thing for Australia. compiling states and individual councils. In fact someone allready did an Australian list and put up a website called attackchi many years ago.
    Its not based on nothing, it's based on legislations.
    There is no legislation anywhere in the world that specifically targets Pugs or many of the breeds in that list.

    It is internet hype.

    One of the problems with the internet is that people believe everything that is written. One person says it, another catches on and they say it and pretty soon it is gospel and fact.

    To illlustrate with an example - It is like the 'cross bred dog being healthier theory'. One person said and they said it with conviction, then someone else did and on it went. The truth of it is that hybrid vigour does exist but not in the simplistic way that cross bred dog breeders think it does and the statement that a cross bred dog is healthier is wrong.

    Yes, there are various Councils around Australia that have various breeds on a restricted or banned list, but these can be found and verified.

    The list that you are looking at is being taken out of context and is an 'projected list' based on supposed scenarios, including that the Eurpean Convention will affect us in Australia.

    The breeds are listed for various reasons. The Pug is not listed because it may make a BSL list for aggression, it is listed because it may make a banned list for health reasons. To date though, the Pug is not banned in any country.

    This list is created in an effort to create hype surrounding BSL. All it does is make a mockery of the real issues of BSL in my view.
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    It seams to me that dog cannot be a dog any longer because people just look for any "weird" or unsuitable reaction from them to label them as agro or deadly. People should try to understand dogs more as they are an entire different species, do not speak our language and do not behave like humans and never will. So unless people are willing to soften up an look at things from a different angle - they shouldn't have dogs in their lives, period. Too often I see dogs being labeled as "aggressive", "dominant", "naughty" because people just do not understand them (and many are not even trying to, thinking that everything evolves around them and only them which in my opinion is plain stupid).

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    Very well said Fedra! Dogs are dogs. They are not little humans in furry suits.
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    Haha my Newfie might slober someone to death!

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    Taken from that link;

    While most people know that breed specific legislation (BSL) can spread like wildfire when decisions are made by non-canine experts and stories are sensationalized by the media - I’m betting you’ll be shocked by some of the breeds on this list of 75. All of the dogs on this list are either banned or there are restrictions on owning them *somewhere* in the United States. Some of the breed names on this list may sound odd, but they appear here as they are written in the actual bans (including misspellings!). Some of the breeds here are being banned in communities due to blanket bans on canine physical traits (for example, the pug is stocky, broad and has a short muzzle- thus sharing some of the same traits as the “fearsome” bully breeds).




    It still surprises me how quick some are to write of things such as this as "internet hype" etc.....
    Perhaps its because thier own breed is mentioned in the same breath as BSL ,something they believed would never be possible ?

    Why be so quick to shrug off this type of thing?
    What happened to everyone listening and watching for all breeds.....
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    I have said for years now Choppa that the Pug will be banned. The health of the modern day Pug is a big issue. I just hope breeders listen.

    As for being quick to write it off, I have already explained that I saw the list several years ago. It's nothing new at all. I Have had several years of researching to determine what is what with this list. It is internet hype Choppa. For chrissakes, this one in particular is from someones personal blog.

    Even this stupid statement: (for example, the pug is stocky, broad and has a short muzzle- thus sharing some of the same traits as the “fearsome” bully breeds). is a joke. The Pug is on danger lists not becuase of anything to do with bull breeds at all. It is on the danger list due to health issues as I have already said.

    Prove to me that the Pug is banned anywhere in this world.

    Choppa, normally I would consider you to be logical in your thoughts and knowledgeable and I am actually surprised that you are willing to take this list as being gospel. Really, really surprised actually.

    PS you'll find that this person hasn't lifted the list form eslewhere. It is not even their list. They should have listed the source and in fact, ANYONE with any brains would always list the sources when making such absurd claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Taken from that link;

    While most people know that breed specific legislation (BSL) can spread like wildfire when decisions are made by non-canine experts and stories are sensationalized by the media - I’m betting you’ll be shocked by some of the breeds on this list of 75. All of the dogs on this list are either banned or there are restrictions on owning them *somewhere* in the United States. Some of the breed names on this list may sound odd, but they appear here as they are written in the actual bans (including misspellings!). Some of the breeds here are being banned in communities due to blanket bans on canine physical traits (for example, the pug is stocky, broad and has a short muzzle- thus sharing some of the same traits as the “fearsome” bully breeds).




    It still surprises me how quick some are to write of things such as this as "internet hype" etc.....
    Perhaps its because thier own breed is mentioned in the same breath as BSL ,something they believed would never be possible ?

    Why be so quick to shrug off this type of thing?
    What happened to everyone listening and watching for all breeds.....
    Oh my god Renee, I was just thinking this!

    Well, hey! Im so so surprised neither of my breeds are up there. But I guess the Kelpie isnt a big breed over there and the Foxy is close enough to the JRT. But if my breeds were there, i wouldnt be shrugging it off.
    I dont think people like to see their breed linked to the 'dangerous' breeds.

    BSLs only for Pitties, Dobes, Rottis and GSD's anyway
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