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    I might not have been here long enough to really warrant venting just yet.. But since getting Chloe this has reallly annoyed me (the pit bull and no training, no licence post really brought this to my attention)..

    As soon as I step out with her, no matter where I go we are surrounded by children, (fair game we live in an area where there are a lot of parks, and families one of the reasons we chose here).. What I am struggling with most of all is NOT chloe (who has been an absolute angel) but parents!! In particular those who let their SMALL children run upto chloe in full force to pat her without asking..

    Now I am a mum of a 6 yr old, and from a VERY young age I have ALWAYS taught Miss T to never run up to a dog, to never approach a dog for a pat, heck to never run towards or behind a dog because YOU JUST DON'T KNOW.. Miss T knows full well that if she wishes to pat a dog, she addresses the owner asks politely and then awaits for the "ok" to pat said dog... To me this was common freeking parenting..

    Well over the last 10 or so days, i have learnt that apparently i am in the minority of the group who teach their kids this... I have gone walking down the street for a 12 yr old (guessing the age) come up behind Miss T, myself and Chloe and pat her on the behind.. The kid scared the crap out of me let alone Chloe and when I asked him WTF he was doing he just shrugged looked at me like I was asking to much and went on his way....

    Yesterday was the pinnacle though (and I hope it never happens again)... We went and watched my other half play outdoor cricket, we took chloe with us and kept a fair distance away from the 'crowd' so people wouldn't be drawn to pat her etc (which she handles quite well so far, but like anyone needs her space).. I had a no more then 3 yr old beeline for her.. I could see what was happening so I casually got up and walked away he lost interest and we sat back down... The mother was NO where to be seen... He came back again when i was on the phone (i didnt see him creep up to us) and he put his face right in front of Chloes and grabbed her nose... I pulled chloe back straight away and told the kid to go away... Again mother no where to be seen.. The kid went back crying and the mother THEN came over asking what had happened (quite rudely) when i explained what had happened, she told me that MY dog better not bite her son... WTF???

    I was very proud of my girl, if i was a dog i would of bitten him and the mum to be honest.. But how does this woman justify her actions? Her neglectful parenting could of resulted in a dog bite, it also could of resulted in a kidnapping, or the kid falling down the flight of stairs he had to climb to get away from her.. But somehow, this was all MY fault??

    (for what it's worth I told her in NO uncertain terms, that she was a horrible/neglectful parent, indicated that I also had a child and told her to watch her bloody kids instead of drinking beer)...

    It made me soo soo mad!!

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    Rant away Jodz , I totally agree !
    It's the same as when out walking the dogs and you come across the half wits who dont have their dogs on leash , they yell out "oh he's right,Mopsy wouldnt hurt a fly"....yep well thats great dear , but how do you know if mine might?

    Like you the kids have been taught to never go upto a strange dog without asking permission from the owner.
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    thanks Choppa!! I felt a bit bad about being so negative so early on (im usually a really optimistic person!)

    I get that a lot too, and it scares the crap out of not only myself but also Chloe (some guard dog LOL!), thankfully a lot of our parks have a stict "dogs on leash" rule so it doesnt happen to often, at least not in the peak times..

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    Jodz, you sound protective of Chloe. It is normal for children to want to pat a dog especially if it is a puppy. Standing on the sides alone with Chloe as you can see does not help. Children are attracted to pets like magnets. I used it as a socialization lesson for Mimi. I usually ask a child that stares at Mimi if he/she wants to pat her and then gently show him/her how to do it but only for a couple of seconds. It is also important for children not to be afraid of dogs. I feel sorry for that poor child that went off crying after you told him off. He probably will now be afraid of dogs and humans with dogs forever!

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    I'm more than happy to have kids pat Griffen if they ask first but I would have told the child off too if he came running straight up to him.
    While Griffen is good with kids if they'r quiet he'd be petrified to have one run up to him. He wont have anything to do with my brothers 4 yearold, last time they came to my place Griffen hid in the toilet.

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    I have tried to teach my 2 yo and 4 yo the safe behaviour around dogs but they do sometimes forget. But I agree it is poor parenting to just let your child touch whenever and whatever they want would they let them touch an eectric fence? The one ime I can think of my kid touching without asking was a guide dog in training and the lady was really runde rather than taking the 2 secs to say this coat means this is a special dog you cant touch she just yelled at them. (that pissed me off)
    Cant seem to get through to them that all small dogs are not puppies either.

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    It is certainly parental fault. Any dog, no matter what the breed should not be rushingly approached by kids. It is a big lure for them though.

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    Hey Jodz, no rant and really good and valid issue you raise. I can feel your frustration and I know where you're coming from. Parents 'should' take more responsibility but it just doesn't and won't happen anytime soon. The person who came up to you was completely rude I think! Bag!

    Mimi makes a couple of good points - we all know kids are attracted to dogs and vice versa a lot of the times. I just think there needs to be some balance - I think we're all reasonably confident about the level and extent to which strangers can approach our dogs - so we just continue to do what we do! Jodz you did the right thing I believe, you obviously know your Chloe and what limitations there are for kids getting in her face.

    Lets not shoo the kids away though, bring them in carefully and show them how to approach dogs and what kind of dog and his/her features. I do it everyday and (most) kids really listen and take notice and love learning - it actually seems to make it even more special for them when they get to finally pat them.

    Anyways just my thoughts. Great topic Jodz - best to you and pats for Chloe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi1 View Post
    Jodz, you sound protective of Chloe. It is normal for children to want to pat a dog especially if it is a puppy. Standing on the sides alone with Chloe as you can see does not help. Children are attracted to pets like magnets. I used it as a socialization lesson for Mimi. I usually ask a child that stares at Mimi if he/she wants to pat her and then gently show him/her how to do it but only for a couple of seconds. It is also important for children not to be afraid of dogs. I feel sorry for that poor child that went off crying after you told him off. He probably will now be afraid of dogs and humans with dogs forever!
    I'm with you Mimi. Children are spontaneous little people. They don't think before they act. Hopefully this is something they will learn with maturity. Sadly not everyone does.

    You can teach your children the basics but you can't rely on them to remember the rules all the time. My boys know not to touch a dog when it is eating. A sensible precaution even though even a toddler could remove a bone safely from my dogs mouths. Being kids they sometimes forget. They have also been taught not to pet a dog without asking the owner's permission first. Occasionally the dog is so cute they forget. This is how kids minds work. Something attracts and they go and investigate. It's part of the learning process. A six year old doesn't think of the consequences, he just acts.

    Not all parents are sensible so dog owners have to be on the alert. Not all dog owners are responsible so parents have to take precautions. Good dogs and good kids are a great combination. It's usually the adults who are the problem.

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    I agree Jodz, parents should teach their children to always ask if they can pat someone's dog. In this case the mother should have been watching her child - if he was bitten of course it would have been your fault!

    I love it when kids ask if they can pat Taya, or better still they ask mum/dad and they say to ask me

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