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    I agree with Choppa. New owners of dogs should have the "No training, no licence, no dog applied.
    When the issue is about children and dogs, it is the parents that need to know that you NEVER leave children unsupervised or alone with an animal no matter how faithful, kind, well trained or placid it may be. Having the rule of "No training, no licence, no dog" applied, means that you would cull out all those would be owners that are merely the "Christmas" type that have no clue about the needs of a family pet. On the other hand, hopefully, you would during the training and before receiving a licence be informed about safety for the family and children involved.
    Last edited by Mimi1; 10-13-2009 at 03:44 AM.

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    The biggest issue we have i believe with dog attacks is that humans just dont understand dog language !!!

    A dog can be very well trained the owner can have a license but if the ppl around the dog dont understand dog behaviour it will all mean very little!

    Ive seen it with my very own eyes plenty of times...
    Ppl are laughing at things that the dogs arent finding funny or " cute" but they dont see or register the dogs reaction so they dont expect the dog to react the way it sometimes will .... I believe the problem most often lies with with the human and its the humans that need educating, dogs are instinctual animals and will act a certain way, humans need to understand that and need to be taught to read the body language a dog often displays long b4 anything nasty happens....Im sure that would reduce the number of attacks....
    Just my personal opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MISCHIEFMAKA View Post
    The biggest issue we have i believe with dog attacks is that humans just dont understand dog language !!!

    A dog can be very well trained the owner can have a license but if the ppl around the dog dont understand dog behaviour it will all mean very little!

    Ive seen it with my very own eyes plenty of times...
    Ppl are laughing at things that the dogs arent finding funny or " cute" but they dont see or register the dogs reaction so they dont expect the dog to react the way it sometimes will .... I believe the problem most often lies with with the human and its the humans that need educating, dogs are instinctual animals and will act a certain way, humans need to understand that and need to be taught to read the body language a dog often displays long b4 anything nasty happens....Im sure that would reduce the number of attacks....
    Just my personal opinion.
    Very good point!

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    Sounds good but in reality??

    We have a comprehensive driver licensing system worth billions in running and enforcement and does it free our roads from people who can't and shouldn't drive??

    PS. Hope you fixed your computer issue Choppa!!

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    Although I do agree that people should be made to do some sort of course on responsible dog ownership before they go out and buy a dog, I can't agree with the said statement of this topic due to the fact too many Councils are anti dog and if something like that WAS legislated for, Councils would overstep their POWER by refusing licences to everyone within their municipality. We already have too many rules and regs against us, so we don't want to be adding more legislation against dogs and we dog owners.

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    Agree Nattylou!!

    ChoppaChop, you should be able to get your toolbar back by moving your mouse to the top of the screedn, and when your toolbar pops down, click the middle button on the right side (next to the X which closes the window). Your toolbar should be back permanently. The toolbar goes missing when you accidentally hit F11 on the keyboard. Hope that helps!!

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    I think what also needs to be done is more "pet/animal" education in schools!
    My children love dogs and will be taught how to treat a dog correctly... i am often out in town with my dog on a lead and see scared children running away from me and my so called "scary" dog.... This make me sad... YES children need to be aware of strange animals but i don't think children need to be taught to be SCARED of dogs.. but rather how to treat them..

    Society seems to be turning into a place where children and dogs DONT mix.... and this is the saddest thing that could happen!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KelpieMum View Post
    I think what also needs to be done is more "pet/animal" education in schools!
    My children love dogs and will be taught how to treat a dog correctly... i am often out in town with my dog on a lead and see scared children running away from me and my so called "scary" dog.... This make me sad... YES children need to be aware of strange animals but i don't think children need to be taught to be SCARED of dogs.. but rather how to treat them..

    Society seems to be turning into a place where children and dogs DONT mix.... and this is the saddest thing that could happen!!
    I certainly agree with this.
    The more people I meet, the more I like my dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MISCHIEFMAKA View Post
    The biggest issue we have i believe with dog attacks is that humans just dont understand dog language !!!

    A dog can be very well trained the owner can have a license but if the ppl around the dog dont understand dog behaviour it will all mean very little!

    Ive seen it with my very own eyes plenty of times...
    Ppl are laughing at things that the dogs arent finding funny or " cute" but they dont see or register the dogs reaction so they dont expect the dog to react the way it sometimes will .... I believe the problem most often lies with with the human and its the humans that need educating, dogs are instinctual animals and will act a certain way, humans need to understand that and need to be taught to read the body language a dog often displays long b4 anything nasty happens....Im sure that would reduce the number of attacks....
    Just my personal opinion.
    Quote Originally Posted by KelpieMum View Post
    I think what also needs to be done is more "pet/animal" education in schools!
    My children love dogs and will be taught how to treat a dog correctly... i am often out in town with my dog on a lead and see scared children running away from me and my so called "scary" dog.... This make me sad... YES children need to be aware of strange animals but i don't think children need to be taught to be SCARED of dogs.. but rather how to treat them..

    Society seems to be turning into a place where children and dogs DONT mix.... and this is the saddest thing that could happen!!

    Yes...I agree with both these posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deerhound View Post
    I think it's a crock of manure. It shows how little the child care advocate knows about dogs.

    Simply because a dog has completed a course of obedience training, even it it holds a title, does not mean it is safe around children. In fact a lot of highly trained dogs are not even safe around some adults.

    All dogs should be trained to be good canine citizens but this can easily be done at home without the need to join a club. My dogs are all home schooled and they have to be safe with children as I am a foster carer. The dogs had to pass an inspection just as we did.

    I last went to an obedience class back in 1977. That was the day a trainer killed a young Bulldog by jerking too hard on the choke chain it was wearing. I've trained a lot of dogs on my own since then and apart from one all were safe with children. The one who wasn't safe was a badly abused rescue GSD and I had her euthanased. I don't believe in taking risks when children are involved.

    I'm happy to have my dogs pass a temperament test but I will not be forced to attend obedience classes.

    There is a very simple rule about kids and dogs. NEVER leave a young child unsupervised around any dog.
    Could not agree with you more!

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