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    Hi
    Am looking at getting a first dog.

    Am married (no kids - yet). Live in a semi with a smallish yard. Wife and I are at work during the day.

    Will take dog for walks in morning/evening.

    Was thinking of getting a toy poodle, or maybe a cross poodle mix. But open to other suggestions based on appropriatness.

    Our general requirements/concerns

    1) Not alot of space - so the dog cant be too active
    2) Looking at a smaller sized dog (wife doesnt want to be jumped on - pushed over by big dog)
    3) A dog that wont shed
    4) A dog that wont get bored during the day if noone is around
    5) A dog that is obedient/easily trained
    6) A dog that is child friendly.

    So given the above -

    a) Is a dog an appropraite pet for us?
    b) If so the which one would be most appropriate breed?

    Thanks
    Simon

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    1) Not alot of space - so the dog cant be too active - Most dogs don't require a lot of space unless they are a working breed. That isn't to say that all dogs have the same exercise requirements though.
    2) Looking at a smaller sized dog (wife doesnt want to be jumped on - pushed over by big dog)
    3) A dog that wont shed - 99% of dogs shed hair to some degree. Poodles don't, neither do Lagottos...and there are more too.
    4) A dog that wont get bored during the day if noone is around - All dogs will become bored if left to themselves for long periods. It's how they deal with that boredom that is the issue. Some become destructive, some become barkers, others are just plain miserable whilst others cope with it. I'd recommend 2 dogs if possible or a dog walker a few times a week.

    5) A dog that is obedient/easily trained
    6) A dog that is child friendly.

    So given the above -

    a) Is a dog an appropraite pet for us? - Yes, as long as you lok sensibly at the needs of the dog vs your wants.
    b) If so the which one would be most appropriate breed? - A rescue dog. I don't recommned a young pup as they need more interaction during the day than what you can give. A dog from around 8 months upwards would be fine.
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    Simon, dogs are living beings with needs and feelings , they are not commodities. They are also a pack animal which means they do not like being left alone for extended periods of time ALL THE TIME. I know it makes it hard as we all have to work, but take the above into consideration when you do get a dog. If you give PLENTY of time to the dog every morning and each evening ,plus weekends for the entire life of the dog , the dog will soon learn the routine and survive happily being left each day, but remember, the less time and QUALITY interaction you give to your dog can or will result in nuisance barking and destructive behaviour from the dog due to it's loneliness and boredom.
    If you have never had a dog before and want a quiet gentle breed who doesn't need too much exercise, I can highly recommend a rescue Greyhound from the Greyhound Adoption Program.
    If you have your mind set on a poodle or cross, remember they are highly active little dogs that need plenty of training and exercise as do MOST breeds.
    Might be best if you research all the breeds you are interested in, talk to breeders and to the Greyhound adoption people etc before making any commitment.

    ps. poodles do shed but unlike most breeds where the coat sheds and drops all over the place, a poodles 'dropped' coat becomes knotted and matted within the rest of the coat. A good brushing three or four times a week will help to prevent this.
    Last edited by DogSavvy; 09-24-2009 at 12:33 PM.

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    Hi.. thanks for your responses - very helpful insight.

    The reason why I was looking at a toy poodle was based on the suitability given the research I have done to date. I am open to other options/suggestions.

    For me the highest priority is the welfare of the dog, if going to work on weekdays is an issue then maybe I would be better off not getting a dog? or maybe certain breeds can adapt to that sort of lifestyle ? But I think getting two dogs at this stage is not an option unfortunatly.

    I would be spending quality time with the dog before and after, and on weekends. I just cant see a way out of not working at this stage

    Also 2 more questions, is there any consideration I need to give as to whether the dog sleeps inside or outside? I was think it would be outside during the day and sleeping inside at night ? Is there a best practice?

    And finally I am going to "landscape" my garden for the dog. Is there a dog friendly design? At the moment it is just pavers. I want to create some wind/rain/sun shelter and put some grass down. Are certain grasses better for dogs then others? or will it just get ripped up either way?

    Sorry if this information is already available on other posts..

    Thanks!

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    Hi Simon

    I think you are on the right track with your poodle but would suggest that you get 2 as they will keep each other company during the day, a friend of mine has done this and her poodles are fine, I have 2 dogs who that spend all day by themselves much the same as your dog would and they are fine with it, not many people get spend their days with their dogs and they adapt. Mine also sleep inside at night on their own beds.

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    Simon,

    there is definitely some dog friendly designs for landscaping. I have one at home that I can scan and send to you later but it includes different activity areas for your dog if it is at home on it's own during the day i.e a sandpit for hiding toys in, different textures on the ground etc. It's virtually designed for the dog but is appealing to the human eye. Avoid purple plants such as rhoeo as these are the ones that will cause problems if your dog is susceptible to skin issues. We have left gaps in our fence, small peep holes, that allow our dogs to look out during the day - this helps with boredom and also barking and many people comment that our dogs bark less than others as they can see what's coming and going around the street. IMO having a dog shouldn't be ruled out because you work, IF you are prepared to think of the needs of your dog. If everyone who worked full time chose not to have a dog, the rescue places would be even more overflowing than they are. If you can't have two - you can provide entertainment during the day in several different ways, some things that i've done are
    1) Find someone else in your neighbourhood who has one dog too and works and if your dogs get along well, take turns dropping your dogs off at each other's houses for playdates during the day. This means they have company but without the added expense of having 2 dogs.
    2) String a wire high up across the yard and clip old dog leads to it. At the end of the leads tie different toys. This way the toys slide up and down the wire when the dogs try to play with them and is almost "interactive".
    3) Kongs are very popular of course and different mixtures can be made to put in them.
    4) On a hot day freeze a bone / piece of meat in a ice cream container full of water and your dog will lick away at it for quite sometime - keeping them entertained and cool!

    The trick is to alternate the things you give them to do. I remove toys from the dogs and change them around so they don't get bored of the same thing. Then each time you bring a toy out it's like a new toy to them - i think this works for kids too!

    Good on you for asking the questions before you run out and get one and for thinking of what's appropriate to your lifestyle.

    Best bet is to start with a much older dog that likes a quiet lifestyle with a bit of company from other dogs when you can arrange it and daily walks with you and your wife.

    Good luck.

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    Toy breeds, such as the Poodle, and others, are not suited to living outdoors full time. Most breeds will adapt well to being outside while you are at work though and then inside with you when you are home.

    Ensure that you have loads of shade and areas for them to find protection from the weather.

    There are some breeds who will show preference to outdoors but the majority will not cope with being outdoors on their own while you are at home. They will want to be part of the family unit and they should be too in my opinion.

    Most of us will probably have had a dog or two over our lifetime that has spent some time by itself in the yard while we were at work. Even one of my Pugs, Boofy, spent his first year as a solo dog although we did foster for a rescue org at the time so he had play mates off and on.

    He is fine and was not damaged by his time on his own but we gave him lots of attention when we were home. He was always with us inside, getting into whatever we got into.
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    Hey Simon,

    I would suggest looking into greyhound adoption, a greyhound would be suitable for most of the things you mentioned including the shedding of hair.

    GAP >> GRV Clubs > Home

    The Greyhound Adoption Program of Queensland

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonj View Post
    Hi.. thanks for your responses - very helpful insight.

    The reason why I was looking at a toy poodle was based on the suitability given the research I have done to date. I am open to other options/suggestions.

    For me the highest priority is the welfare of the dog, if going to work on weekdays is an issue then maybe I would be better off not getting a dog? or maybe certain breeds can adapt to that sort of lifestyle ? But I think getting two dogs at this stage is not an option unfortunatly.

    I would be spending quality time with the dog before and after, and on weekends. I just cant see a way out of not working at this stage

    Also 2 more questions, is there any consideration I need to give as to whether the dog sleeps inside or outside? I was think it would be outside during the day and sleeping inside at night ? Is there a best practice?

    And finally I am going to "landscape" my garden for the dog. Is there a dog friendly design? At the moment it is just pavers. I want to create some wind/rain/sun shelter and put some grass down. Are certain grasses better for dogs then others? or will it just get ripped up either way?

    Sorry if this information is already available on other posts..

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonj View Post
    Hi
    Am looking at getting a first dog.

    Am married (no kids - yet). Live in a semi with a smallish yard. Wife and I are at work during the day.

    Will take dog for walks in morning/evening.

    Was thinking of getting a toy poodle, or maybe a cross poodle mix. But open to other suggestions based on appropriatness.

    Our general requirements/concerns

    1) Not alot of space - so the dog cant be too active
    2) Looking at a smaller sized dog (wife doesnt want to be jumped on - pushed over by big dog)
    3) A dog that wont shed
    4) A dog that wont get bored during the day if noone is around
    5) A dog that is obedient/easily trained
    6) A dog that is child friendly.

    So given the above -

    a) Is a dog an appropraite pet for us?
    b) If so the which one would be most appropriate breed?

    Thanks
    Simon
    Sounds very much like my Kuro

    Kuro keeps himself occupied when no one is home, in fact he gets his favorite treat as we leave home, so he associates us leaving with being happy and having his most prize snack.

    A male should only shed once a year whereas females will shed more often. The breed is renouned for having a non allergenic coat and a teflon like feel to his coat which generally nothing sticks to it. You really would need to feel the coat of a JS to know what I mean !!

    Kuro does have a small garden in his enclosure where he can dig so he does not dig anywhere else. He has a lovely temperament and will be your shadow as you walk around the house/unit.

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    Here is a good description of a JS... Very accurate.. Click on BREED link for info.

    The japanese spitz - The site offers information on japanese spitz breed, pedigrees and japanese spitz book

    When we first looked for a puppy, we started with the Poodle breeds and are very happy to have finally chosen a JS.

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